One for the remoaners and those that can't accept defeat

@RyanUK Probably more accurate to call me a person who is ashamed to be british but happy to be European. A person who believes in a European Federal Republic, with current EU members becoming states. A person who can't stand patriotism to any degree. And a person who is, frankly, sick of your shit. You won. Well done. Now please shut up.

@RyanUK Trading with the EU requires following their rules and regulations for any products shipped to them. Even in the worst case scenario, once relations are normalised, most of our trade will still be with the EU. And therefore all manufacturing regulations will still have to be followed for the vast majority of products, except now the UK won't have a say in defining those regulations. *slow clap*

And if you think our government right now having the reigns on human rights laws is a good thing, then damn, you must be dumber than I thought, and that is saying something.

The truth is, the EU had no influence on day to day lawmaking. The UK was still a free state. Trade and human rights are the main things the EU had a hold over. Now, let me ask you this. Do you really think that we, a tiny island with little real leverage or trade value, can get a favouable trade deal with the United States of Fucking America? No! They have so much more to offer than we do, and they hold all the cards. The same goes with any other significant country we try to negotiate with. Without the rest of the EU, our bargaining power is reduced to being pathetically tiny.

We lost. We lost to an uninformed, uninterested, uneducated population, but yes, we lost. So, have it. Have Brexit. Good luck with all that shit.

@RyanUK I clearly have accepted defeat. And no, 17.4 million people aren't uneducated, though statistically they have a lower level of education than remainers. Sorry if you don't like it, but it is true. Apart from low education, some people were just tricked by false advertising, or just genuinely believe that the UK is better off out of the EU for simply ideological reasons. Those last ones are the only ones, by the way, that I respect. If you believe the UK shouldn't be in the EU because you don't believe in the EU, then i disagree, but fine. That's respectable. If you're still under the delusion that it will be good for the UK, all I can say is haha, hahaha, haha, ha. Well done on your incredible skill at ignoring reality. It would be impressive if it wasn't so sad.

And yes, I am bitter. Are you trying to use that as an insult? You don't get to waste your time making people bitter and then get all pissy about them being bitter, lol.

@RyanUK The economy *isn't* strong, sweetie. And it will only get worse after we leave. And brexiteers accepting the result? Lol. Also, just to be clear, a second referendum wouldn't be any more or less democratic than the first. And arguing against one just reveals how scared you fuckers are of the fact that you know you'd lose. If you really believe it is the will of the people, what do you have to lose by doing it again? Maybe you know that the lies of the leave campaign have been exposed, and most people aren't dumb enough to not see the value of the pound dropping. And as much as people like to blame increased crime rates on austerity, increased crime is a common result of economic instability too. Hundreds of billions of pounds worth of assets are leaving the UK. Major companies are moving abroad. Yeah, those are definitely signs of a mighty healthy economy.

For the record, my wish to remain is an ideological one, not an economic one. Even if the UK were worse of in the EU, which we decidedly aren't, I would still want to stay. Because I believe in the EU on a fundamental level.

@RyanUK 1) they can't make us scrap the pound. 2) If we did, it wouldn't be a bad thing anyway. 3) If you're going to continue to ignore any points I make that you can't respond to, then I'm just going to stop bothering with you. As funny as it is for me to make good point after good point only for you to ignore 90% of my posts and expertly find something inane to complain about, I don't have time for it.

@RyanUK If my points aren't good, then why aren't you refuting them? Is it because you don't know how? I don't know but I think that just might be it.

Okay, just for shits and giggles, please explain to me why a second referendum wouldn't be democratic?

@RyanUK You do realise that it is not democratic to hold a single vote and never go back for another one? Has the concept of democracy been lost on you? Are you somehow confused by why we keep having those pesky general elections, when we all already voted last time?

In any case, a second referendum is asking a different question to the first anyway. In practice the first had these 2 options: Remain in the EU, or Negotiate a withdrawal. The second referendum would simply be asking the public: Are you satisfied with the negotiated withdrawal agreement or do you believe that remaining would be the better option. It not only doesn't ignore the initial vote, but is a clear and sensible follow up to it.