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Is it possible to have a second referendum on Brexit?

Personally, I don't think it is. Much to the disappointment of Remainers, there has been little shift in public opinion over the last two years. An average of polls shows a very small percentage shift to remain but well within the margin of error and nothing like the decisive shift that would be needed to mandate a second referendum.

In addition, there has been a hardening of attitudes among leave voters, with a majority of them saying they want a hard Brexit or a no deal Brexit. A no deal would be a disaster for everyone but if 98% of climate scientists can't convince partisan opposition of facts they don't want to believe, then a consensus of economists will have no such luck here.

When remainers see an incompetent government in meltdown over a bad idea that was impossible to deliver, leavers see an incompetent government in meltdown because it has sold out on achievable promises. That Britain is a second tier world power in a weak negotiating position is not what people want to hear.

In addition, the 'People's Vote' campaign has failed to connect with anyone outside its metropolitan liberal base. Worse than this, it has divided its base by alienating Corbyn supporters like myself on the Labour left. So much time and energy has been spent on blaming Corbyn for Brexit and in plotting a new breakaway party that left remainers have suspicion of the PV campaigners which borders on hostility. The remain camp is divided along the lines of the Labour Party Civil war two years ago.

Most Labour voters backed remain, especially in the cities but in small regional towns the picture is mixed and most Labour MPs are actually against a people's vote. Corbyn is not prepared to fight for the Brexit issue because its not his top priority and also because its not a battle he can win.

There are no good or easy options in this complex and messy situation. I still think that some kind of compromise soft Brexit is the most likely outcome but that will please nobody. The shit show must go on.
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The only reason I can see for another referendum is that what leave actually meant wasn't known at the time of the 2nd referendum.

However I expect we'll leave with no deal. Be honest I thought that was the original leave option anyway. And I can't see an agreement in time and legally we leave on 29th March deal or no deal.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@SW-User The leave campaign was taking about the Norway option during the referendum. They've now switched to a no deal Brexit and the media has failed to call out this huge inconsistency. The cost of that is that most leave voters think they have an iron democratic mandate for hard Brexit.
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@Burnley123 I don't disagree. I remember the first feature Boris wrote for a daily newspaper after the referendum basically outlined a Norway line deal. Now he argues that is a betrayal of the referendum. But then Boris has never been truthful or consistent in his political life.
Longleggedlady · 31-35, F
@SW-User extension is possible of Article 50
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@Longleggedlady

[quote] Extending Article 50 would require unanimous agreement in the European Council, the grouping of EU heads of state and government.
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So just one head of state could veto and deny it.
SW-User
@SW-User we can't extend unilaterally and they won't extend beyond the scheduled EU parliament elections as we've no plans to hold them obviously
Longleggedlady · 31-35, F
@SW-User true but I don't think the EU wants a no deal situation either
SW-User
@Longleggedlady true but.... It's more our issue than theirs. Their fall back will be Norway deal but we'd have to pay in and accept fee movement. Can PM accept that after all the red line rhetoric?
Longleggedlady · 31-35, F
@SW-User there is nothing wro g with the Norway deal
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@Longleggedlady free movement, payment to EU coffers, tied to EU trade deals.

She'll never get it through the tory rebels. Her only chance is if Labour agree to it (possible) but it is suicide for her as Tory leader.
Longleggedlady · 31-35, F
@SW-User Tory rebels can be brought to heel very easily
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@Longleggedlady hasn't looked likely so far lol
Longleggedlady · 31-35, F
@SW-User I like freedom if movement and when you have got lots of people negotiating you can get better than single trying to do so
Longleggedlady · 31-35, F
@SW-User same way as her cabinet has suffered casualties and they all rely on donations and financial support regardless of which party it is