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SW-User
Democrats would never back-down lest the disgusting precedent of "government by hostage taking" become normalized. The Dems said "no" three weeks ago and meant it -- he just didn't listen.
AndrewtheAlu · M
@SW-User hopefully he’ll listen at some point in the next 3 weeks

SW-User
@AndrewtheAlu They will give him some face saving legislation at this point. This whole fiasco was 100% his fault.
AndrewtheAlu · M
@SW-User but also inevitable ever since he was elected though right?

SW-User
@AndrewtheAlu Hard to say -- he caved to right wing talk radio hosts. He also said Mexico was going to pay for the wall. He had no idea what a government shutdown actually would entail. The idea that he held his own citizens hostage is beyond repulsive.
AndrewtheAlu · M
@SW-User yeah but the wall was his loudest campaigning policy wasn’t it? He would have to try seriously to get it at some point and the Democrats were never going to respond any differently

SW-User
@AndrewtheAlu It was certainly up there, yes, as part of a general anti-immigrant stance. He never tried to strike a deal with Dems to get funding for the wall. He could have, but chose not to do so. The Dems indicated they would fund the wall in exchange for protections for illegal immigrants brought to the US as children. His right wing base made him back down. Nothing about the shutdown was inevitable -- that was Trump's doing which he proclaimed i.e, that he would "own" it. He's a horrible negotiator.