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Buzzfeed report picked up by the rest of the media including CNN without any fact checking

[b]is a terrific example of trial by slander. Fortunately Mueller slammed buzzfeed. Apparently at least he believes in due process. Look it up it’s in the CONSTITUTION[/b]
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Milkshake · F
mueller is one of the best people. he should run for president
TexChik · F
@Milkshake why yes, we need another corrupt ex FBI guy in government don't we?
Milkshake · F
@TexChik you are talking about people protecting the usa here... show some respect these people put their lives out there for your and my safety
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Not to quibble but seriously it’s not like Mueller is risking his life. The President is. @Milkshake
TexChik · F
@Milkshake I have no respect for tkose who believe they are above the law . He sat by while Hillary sold weapons grade Uranium to Russia and did nothing . Selectively enforcing the law is not respectable . He’s a swamp guy .
Milkshake · F
dont you think its a but weird you see conspiracies everywhere ? if there is one thing fishy you might have a point.. but if you view everything as a conspiracy that criticizes those in power... thats very questionable.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@Milkshake [quote]mueller is one of the best people. he should run for president[/quote]

You mean the person who was the director of the FBI and couldn't put two and two together before 9/11 happened on his watch?
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
In his defense Mueller wasn’t the only who ignored important information back then. @beckyromero
TexChik · F
@Milkshake Conspiracy? sister that happened. Just as Comey [i][b]changed the law[/b][/i] to exonerate Clinton in the email scandal. Im sure you walk around with a full load too! 🙄
TexChik · F
@jackjjackson Im sure @Milkshake's idol worship saved his bacon
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@jackjjackson

But surely he knew that Coleen Rowley had gone around her superiors at the FBI and to the CIA? After all, Director Tenet knew about Zacharias Moussai from the FBI. How could Mueller not have know?

After all, if a person was told that an Islamic extremist from the Middle East wants to learn how to fly a transcontinental passenger jumbo jet but is not interested in learning how to take-off or land it, and there are two other groups of Middle Eastern men, one group in Phoenix and another in Minneapolis, also taking flight lessons and had alarmed the flight instructors enough that they independently each contacted the FBI, just what kind of dim-watted light bulb would that person have for a brain?
Milkshake · F
@beckyromero yeah... who was in charge again at that time.. oh right.. republican.. oooh snap
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@Milkshake [quote]yeah... who was in charge again at that time.. oh right.. republican.. oooh snap[/quote]

Kind of why I voted for Kerry in 2004.

Your point?
TexChik · F
@Milkshake during the Uranium One scandal, Hillary was Secretary of state and Obama was president...or was that Trumps fault too?
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@jackjjackson

Don't you just love how people make knee-jerk reactions and [i]assume[/i] someone's political allegience because of their criticism of Robert Mueller without looking at that criticism on its own merits?
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
What I don’t understand is how anyone can claim to know what is going on with Mueller. It seems he believes in the antiquated notion of due process. @beckyromero
TexChik · F
@jackjjackson isn't it quaint that he can only find corruption in republicans and not the libs...? Thats so laughable.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@jackjjackson [quote]What I don’t understand is how anyone can claim to know what is going on with Mueller. It seems he believes in the antiquated notion of due process.[/quote]

Mueller over-thinks.

He wants to have every "i" dotted and every "t" crossed before he makes a decision on whether to go to the bathroom or not.

Yes, he took over as director, FBI seven days before 9/11.

But he was given the intelligence - [b][big]and failed to act upon it[/big][/b].

. . .

The mindset of the FBI since Hoover's days has always been to "investigate." Federal Bureau of [b]Investigation[/b].

As in: If a crime might later be committed, that's OK. Just have all the evidence to prosecute later.

. . .

[quote]If there was a golden opportunity to stop the attacks, Moussaoui was it. Prosecutors say he was following the same path as the other 19 hijackers. But there was a difference; Moussaoui couldn't keep his mouth shut. That got him in trouble in August when he was taking flight simulator training at a school in Minnesota. He was a strange student with strange questions. He was interested in flight patterns around New York City. He asked whether the doors of a 747 could be opened in flight. And there was more.

He paid for his flight lessons, nearly $7,000, in cash and he told his instructors that he urgently needed to learn how to fly big jets, even though at the time he didn't have so much as the license to fly a Cessna. Within two days some of the instructors were openly talking about whether Moussaoui might be a hijacking suspect, so they decided to call the FBI.

That was August 15th and the next day, FBI and immigration agents staked out Moussaoui's hotel. Sources familiar with the investigation tells us when Moussaoui stepped out, the agents asked him about his flight training and how he was paying for it.

Moussaoui told them that he always wanted to learn how to fly and he was a successful salesman. The FBI asked him what company he worked for and Moussaoui told the agents that he couldn't remember. It was all downhill from there. Moussaoui became belligerent - he told the agents that they wouldn't be harassing him if he wasn't an Arab. The agents asked to see his personal belongings and Moussaoui said no. The FBI didn't have any reason to arrest him at that point, but Moussaoui had overstayed the 90 days that he was supposed to be in the United States, so the immigration officer took him in.

They took him to the Sherburne County jail in Minnesota. The FBI was sure Moussaoui was up to something. They actually discussed whether he was plotting to crash a plane into a building in New York City. It was a hunch and a brilliant one. They wanted to search Moussaoui's laptop and belongings. But they couldn't without a warrant. So the agents asked FBI headquarters in Washington to try to get a special search warrant under a law called the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act — or FISA for short.

. . .

Three months after the attacks, FBI director Robert Mueller said this about the effort to get the search warrant. "All I can tell you is that the agents on the scene attempted to follow up aggressively. The attorneys back at FBI determined that there was insufficient probable cause for a FISA, which appears to be an accurate decision. And September 11th happened."

. . .

After September 11th the FBI got a search warrant that its field agents had wanted for three weeks, and they immediately found the evidence that led to key conspirators in the attacks. According to Moussaoui's indictment, the FBI found his notebook, listing a German phone number. That number traced back to Ramzi bin al Shibh. Bin al Shibh was the roommate of Mohammad Atta, the leader of the attacks. Bin al Shibh and Atta created a German Al Qaeda cell together. Bin al Shibh wired tens of thousands of dollars to Moussaoui and another hijacker, Marwan al-Shehhi, who flew into the World Trade Center's South tower.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/could-it-have-been-stopped/

So with the evidence then collected, Mueller and the FBI got its conviction.

After 2,996 innocent people were dead.


Also see:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/could-it-have-been-stopped/

https://fas.org/irp/congress/2002_hr/092602mueller.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/06/us/threats-responses-whistleblower-agent-who-saw-9-11-lapses-still-faults-fbi.html

https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=91617&page=1

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/10/politics/report-details-fbis-failure-on-2-hijackers.html

http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,249500,00.html

https://ntknetwork.com/gillibrand-i-will-look-into-whether-robert-mueller-was-part-of-a-9-11-cover-up/
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
I don’t disagree. It doesn’t appear there will ever be a complete investigation. Yet another reason to question whether the government is working for US. @beckyromero