When will Trump finally cave in and re open the government?

@easterniowegin Couldn't Trump just act civil, realizes he's hurting Americans with this shutdown he initially started and re open the government?

@SW-User but my point is that BOTH sides have the power to end this...weeks ago. Nancy is being just as stubborn as trump. Why doesnt she just end the maddness??

@easterniowegin It would be the Senate Majority Leader who has the power to end it. Both Republicans and Democrats do not have that power to end it however, neither of them want this wall.

@SW-User so it boils down to, this is an old fashioned standoff...a game of chicken. Neither side wants to cave in. At some point one of them is going to cave in. We just hope that too much damage hasnt been done to the people who are pawns in this game.
Trump can certainly drop his demand of a wall or a veto. But Nancy can also submit a budget appropriations bill with money for a wall. Neither wants to, but it is shared equally by the rock and the immovable object.

@easterniowegin The maybe it's best for Trump to negotiate with both Democrats and Republicans on something else other than this 2,000 miles border wall that both will agree on.

@easterniowegin If both sides have the power to end it, why did one side enact in the first place? Why didn't they work to fix this "crisis" in the 24 months prior to them losing the House?

@SW-User obviously compromise is best. So what remains to negotiate with? He has dropped the price down to $5B from almost 60B. What has the other side given?
See, a compromise involves each side giving in...giving up something.
Saying "No!" louder each time is not negotiating.

@easterniowegin [quote]obviously compromise is best[/quote]

Oh, thanks for playing! For conservatives, compromise is weakness and refusal to compromise is strength. Talk to the Tea Party and the Freedom Caucus about their thoughts on "compromise" and get back with us.

@easterniowegin Because he came up with the border wall idea. He could negotiate on building a barrier in places where it's actually needed not a barrier from one side of the nation to the next.

@daisymay you do understand how the swamp works, right? Just bcuz he has an R behind his name as president doesnt mean that the entire establishment is behind him. As a matter of fact, many of the RINOs were not behind him. Many have been replaced now, but he has gotten resistance from both sides of the aisle for thebpast 2 years. But this is what he signed up for. Its all part of draining the swamp.

@easterniowegin And that got rid of the "no compromise" caucus? No, it distilled it.

Again, go talk to your political heroes about what they think of compromising with Democrats and get back with us.

@SW-User do you think $5B will get a solid wall?? He has done exactly what you just recommended...thats why the figure is so small. One-tenth if one percent of the budget.

@easterniowegin If we can't afford $3.4B to keep our nation healthy, we certain'y can't afford $5B on a wall (that Mexico was to pay for) that won't work.

@daisymay either side is in a compromising mood. Barry stood firm in his negotiations as well. And the congressional dems took their lead from him. Any idea how many bills died in the senate bcuz harry ried never brought them to the floor for vote? It is a vicious cycle that doesn't end. The dems are just all better at holding a united front. Too many RINOs in the GOP...makes them look uncoordinated.

@daisymay but we have deposited 60B of el chapo's money into the general fund. Think of this as using his money for the wall.

@easterniowegin You mean all the "REPEAL OBAMACARE BILLS"? Yeah, it was a lot of them. I don't think that example illustrates what you want it to, though.

By the way, this $5B for a wall is moot. Make Mexico pay for it, with a check, as promised.

@easterniowegin So, if that's the case why can't we use El Chapo's money to fund single-payer healthcare at a 30% discount to the price of a wall (that is or isn't an actual steel/concrete wall/fence that can/can't be seen through) that will do literally nothing?

@daisymay do you know how government appropriations work?? Even if we took a check directly from the government, it would still get deposited into the general fund, and we would still need nancy to appropriate funds for the wall into the budget. Thats how this works.

Oh and its ok for reid to drop bills he doesnt agree with, but no one else should do it??!

@easterniowegin Why is Reid's justification "Obama will veto" worse than Bitch's "Trump will veto"?

Can you answer that? You've avoided every question so far.

@daisymay why would we want to waste money on socialized healthcare?? Talk about a huge step backwards. I have seen too much death at the hands of "death panels" in socialized countries.

@easterniowegin Oh, you're a talking point spouter. Quick, better warn Rand Paul that Canada will probably kill him when he goes to have his surgery there.

Bye!

Oh, Daisymay just blocked me. Well that will be much quieter for me now. Lmao ❄

@easterniowegin

[quote]He has done exactly what you just recommended[/quote]

What I recommended, Trump hasn't done yet. Trump's wall would cover places were it is not needed and places where it is needed, instead of just places where its needed.

That's why Congress, Democrats and Republicans don't agree with Trump's plan. 5 billion is just to get the project started. By the time it's complete, his barrier would cost about $25 billion or more. It doesn't matter about how low he will go on the price, even if he went for 4 billion he still wants that 2,000 mile long border wall.

@easterniowegin not if the Republicans prevent a vote on that and so far they are

@lorne13 do you really think if nancy passes a bill with funding for the wall, that it would not get a vote in senate??