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We used to have a thing called compassionate conservatism, although it's not much in Vogue these days and the people who championed it seem to be "thems" who need to be "owned" or vanquished along with liberals.
If I had to guess, I'd say it's a developed high tolerance for cognitive dissonance, along with a lot of time spent in bubbles.
If I had to guess, I'd say it's a developed high tolerance for cognitive dissonance, along with a lot of time spent in bubbles.
@daisymay I'm not denying the marketing angle, nor that it's a bit of a seemingly oxymoron at times, but I really don't think that conservatives aren't human beings or that most people completely lack some human characteristics.
Moreover, I think your post mirrors some of the same problems you have with conservatives.
If you start with an us v them position, it's harder to find common ground and establish the kind of dialogue than builds empathy, IMO.
Not that I don't do the same thing sometimes, mind you.
Moreover, I think your post mirrors some of the same problems you have with conservatives.
If you start with an us v them position, it's harder to find common ground and establish the kind of dialogue than builds empathy, IMO.
Not that I don't do the same thing sometimes, mind you.
daisymay · 51-55, T
@MistyCee Ah, no true Scotsman, right?
It doesn't matter. "Just following orders" didn't fly at Nuremberg, we should not allow it a chance to happen here.
They elect the people whose agendas they agree with. They go to the churches of the people who want me dead. They do absolutely NOTHING about it. Why is it incumbent on me to make them understand that murder is wrong? Did they not learn that in church or from the laws they claim to worship, as well?
It doesn't matter. "Just following orders" didn't fly at Nuremberg, we should not allow it a chance to happen here.
They elect the people whose agendas they agree with. They go to the churches of the people who want me dead. They do absolutely NOTHING about it. Why is it incumbent on me to make them understand that murder is wrong? Did they not learn that in church or from the laws they claim to worship, as well?
daisymay · 51-55, T
@MistyCee
What allies can there possibly be from the population of people who wish to see me dead?
Defectors? You mean the people that were stupid enough to vote for Trump in the first place or enabled it in any way or the people whose sole mission when voting is to "stick it to the libs"? No thanks.
I know enough history to know that the enemy of my enemy isn't always my friend and giving them more power by eliminating a common foe isn't always a good thing.
When the transphobic people on the left start demanding my execution, then I will be against them, too.
What allies can there possibly be from the population of people who wish to see me dead?
Defectors? You mean the people that were stupid enough to vote for Trump in the first place or enabled it in any way or the people whose sole mission when voting is to "stick it to the libs"? No thanks.
I know enough history to know that the enemy of my enemy isn't always my friend and giving them more power by eliminating a common foe isn't always a good thing.
When the transphobic people on the left start demanding my execution, then I will be against them, too.
daisymay · 51-55, T
@MistyCee [quote]What about people who don't want to kill you[/quote]
I highly doubt those people exist in the USA political right. They'd be like a unicorn. Regardless, they support those who do wish me dead. They vote for them 100% of the time. When a person who doesn't want to kill LGBT people is up against one who does, they vote for the wanna-be-murderer every time. Without fail.
[quote]Or folks who want to cure you by reading the Bible to you?[/quote]
This one is easy. That would be an affront to me and tantamount to assault.
[quote]Can't we find some common ground with the no killing folks, or the pro lifers?[/quote]
No. You cannot find common ground with pro-lifers on the abortion issue. There is none. They want abortion outlawed completely, in all cases of pregnancy. I already address the go-along-to-get-along "no killing folks" (if they even exist).
What I'm trying to say is that I do not entertain having conservatives in my orbit at all. Not friends. Not family. It's a war alright, and I will go down fighting.
I highly doubt those people exist in the USA political right. They'd be like a unicorn. Regardless, they support those who do wish me dead. They vote for them 100% of the time. When a person who doesn't want to kill LGBT people is up against one who does, they vote for the wanna-be-murderer every time. Without fail.
[quote]Or folks who want to cure you by reading the Bible to you?[/quote]
This one is easy. That would be an affront to me and tantamount to assault.
[quote]Can't we find some common ground with the no killing folks, or the pro lifers?[/quote]
No. You cannot find common ground with pro-lifers on the abortion issue. There is none. They want abortion outlawed completely, in all cases of pregnancy. I already address the go-along-to-get-along "no killing folks" (if they even exist).
What I'm trying to say is that I do not entertain having conservatives in my orbit at all. Not friends. Not family. It's a war alright, and I will go down fighting.