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When will 'free-speech' defenders show some consistency?

Jordan Peterson and Dave Ruben are two members of the self-styled 'intellectual dark-web'. It's a collection mostly made up of right-wing internet celebrities whose main calling card is to defend freedom of expression from the encroaching power of 'post-modern neo-marxism'. To anyone who has ever read any Marx or anything by post-modernist writers; please forget what you know because for their purposes they mean any ideas which can be seen as culturally liberal. They see the strident progressivism of teenaged political activists and the pedantry of the Google HR department as part of the same 'Marxist' plot to overturn western civilisation.

Their latest noble crusade is against Patreon, the company which allows citizens to donate to their favourite political commentators. Patreon has recently de-platformed Carl Benjamin, AKA Sargon of Akad because he got into a (probably drunken) online argument with people in the alt-right and said they were acting like a bunch of n****rs. Tbh, I think Patreon was wrong to ban him though the whole issue is a bit ridiculous. However, it's much more likely that Patreon is trying to protect their brand image by enforcing standards of etiquette than it is for a business corporation to become 'Marxist' because they are inspired by Foucault and Derrida.

Meanwhile, a children's speech pathologist in Austin Texas has been barred from working in her school district because she refused to sign an oath saying that she would not engage in a boycott of Israeli goods. Whatever your opinion on the actions of the Israeli state or a boycott campaign, this is clearly political and an infringement on the rights of free expression. It's also somewhat alarming that publically employed workers can be forcefully mandated into taking a political stance by a government.

https://theintercept.com/2018/12/17/israel-texas-anti-bds-law/

In other news, the actual President of the United States threatens legal action against a comedy show because they take the piss out of him. He has also openly advocated control over the free press because he doesn't like their criticism. His inability to enforce these things does not forgive his intent.

The 'intellectual dark-web' and the rest of the right like to present themselves as defenders of 'edgy' and 'alternative' views when the actual substance of what they are defending is nothing more than the right to offend minority groups. Not offensively difficult political opinions, just the right to offend people. See Milo as another example of this. At the same time, they completely ignore genuine infringements on political free-speech and the abuses of power from the world's most powerful office.
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Bottom line (quote rapper Ice T circa 1989): “Freedom of Speech...just watch what you say”.
And alas, [b]both[/b] sides are guilty of [b]that[/b] hypocrisy.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@bijouxbroussard The Clash said that 'you have the right to free speech so long as you don't actually use it." LOL

I don't claim to be a free-speech absolutist and I'm really suspicious of anyone who claims to be one. For the modern right, this is a really big issue and it's a widely held belief in their circles that the 'intolerant' left is against freedom of expression. They regularly confuse denying people a platform with denying people the right to speak and react to criticism as though it is censorship. It's often who you give a platform to and what you choose as a cause which defines your preferences and ideology.

On this topic, I'm looking for consistency of reasoning. I am all for giving people the chance to say things I disagree with. I just want people to 'own' the positions which they are defending.
@Burnley123 That’s another issue entirely. I expect people to understand the ramifications of what they say and whom they claim to support. For example, if they still believe Trump/Pence is good for our country, they support the idea of a white supremacist theocracy with us heading towards a whites-only immigration policy. They can get mad at me for saying that—but not because it isn’t so.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@bijouxbroussard It can be but I mean it in a more abstract sense. Speech has consequences and has always been politically contested. Also, the free-speech defenders I mention all pick causes to defend which right-wing issues and they do not show any consistency.

[quote]if they still believe Trump/Pence is good for our country, they support the idea of a white supremacist theocracy with us heading towards whites-only immigration policy.[/quote]

I think maybe that is taking it a bit far though I have no doubt Trump and Pence agree with those things on some level.
@Burnley123 The proof is in the legislation; that which makes the news [b]and[/b] that which happens quietly, like protections from racial discrimination being removed.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@bijouxbroussard I don't doubt that. What I am saying is that most of these people don't [i]actively[/i] support these things but ignore it or [i]passively[/i] accept it.

I mean, you know more than me on this because you see these people every day. It's just when I use the analogy of Brexit, I don't think most people voted for it because they are actively racist and support a Singapore economic model. A lot of people turn a blind eye to these things or tacitly accept them. Others are just conned or are people who don't follow politics as closely as maybe they should. This isn't to exempt people from criticism.