Did you consider Pablo Escobar a héro?

@SaxonAZ that he definitely wasn’t lol

@Bagalamaga Yeah, he spent a life always looking over his shoulder, always on the move, and eventually killed. Real success.

@SaxonAZ well he owned over 800 properties worldwide. I own one

@Bagalamaga And for how long? All that didn't amount zilch if you can't enjoy any of it.

@SaxonAZ what he did was wrong but I guarantee you that he lived more than you and i put together

@Bagalamaga I'm still alive and never sold drugs. He chose to be in that line of business which has a short life span. Not too smart.

@SaxonAZ he achieved his vision . Im still chasing mine.

@Bagalamaga Some vision. Get stuff, live a short life. Pretty fucked up idea.

@SaxonAZ the empire was his vision. Be the most powerful one.

@Bagalamaga Who has it now? Not him. What a fool.

@SaxonAZ he did achieve it tho..and nothing is forever either way. Everything you have will be owned by someone else eventually

@Bagalamaga But not that prematurely. He fell into the same trap every dictator has...the illusion of immortality. Chose a cutthroat business and it caught up to him like every other drug lord. Like I said, he was a dumbass.

@SaxonAZ it was a life choice. I agreed with the dictatorship part but that’s the result of power. He wasn’t born into power either. Everyone who can go from zero to being one of the most powerful person on the planet,is not a dumbass

@Bagalamaga Hitler wasn't born into power. They made a poor choice and suffered the predictable consequences. Not very bright. But, it's even more sad the people who make excuses for them.

@SaxonAZ hitler wasn’t a dumbass either. Evil and unethical? Absolutely! Dumb? Absolutely not

@Bagalamaga He had an emerging empire. He ignored his generals and invaded Russia during winter. The same mistake Napoleon made. Real stupid move.

@SaxonAZ It’s power that got them both delusional. You can’t be dumb and build an empire. It’s impossible. Once you have the power,it becomes even more difficult to navigate. They did make poor choices drunk on their own power. It’s always the same mistake

@Bagalamaga They were dumb enough to believe that they were going to be different. That's stupidity defined. Why do you defend them?

@SaxonAZ im not defending them,I simply disagree with your statement of describing them as dumb. People were always thirsty of power,there will always be a next Hitler,Escobar,Napoleon,Stalin etc.

@Bagalamaga They will always fail. Their arrogance makes them dumb.

@SaxonAZ looks like we disagree on what dumbness means. Plenty of evil overlords made it throughout history. There will always be a next one in line. It’s human nature.

@Bagalamaga They will always fall prematurely. They never last.

@SaxonAZ Nothing ever lasts,that’s exactly my point. Their names are all carved into history though. Kids learn about them in school. That’s an achievement in itself. Wrong? Yes! That’s how humanity is

@Bagalamaga They knowingly repeat the same mistakes which is stupidity. That's my point. I'd never make excuses for stupidity.

@SaxonAZ stupidity and dumbness are not the same. Einstein definition of insanity was to repeat the same thing over again expecting different results.i believe the old man. They are insane but not stupid or dumb.