Is Trump making the same mistake as past presidents have by declaring victory too early over ISIS?
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Let's review: Trump says we beat ISIS, Obama said the war on terrorism was over, Bush stood beneath a banner that read "Mission Accomplished". All IMO politically designed to further their agendas. The terrorists, be they ISIS, or other jihadist movements may have stepped back some, but they're by no stretch, going to abandon their war against the "Infidels".
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[quote]Obama said the war on terrorism was over[/quote]
I am not aware that he said that. His comments were on Dec 5th, 2015:
[quote]As a father to two young daughters who are the most precious part of my life, I know that we see ourselves with friends and co-workers at a holiday party like the one in San Bernardino. I know we see our kids in the faces of the young people killed in Paris, and I know that after so much war, many Americans are asking whether we are confronted by a cancer that has no immediate cure. The threat from terrorism is real, but we will overcome it.[/quote]
In response to that WH address, Trump said
[quote] “there was something going on” with Obama because he refused to use the term “radical Islamic terrorism,”[/quote]
Trump's "win" against ISIS, is nothing more than propaganda. ISIS lost influence, due to its own repressive practices, and it was allowed to melt back into "less radical" groups, like Nusra, and other Islamic Syrian opposition groups.
[quote]Obama said the war on terrorism was over[/quote]
I am not aware that he said that. His comments were on Dec 5th, 2015:
[quote]As a father to two young daughters who are the most precious part of my life, I know that we see ourselves with friends and co-workers at a holiday party like the one in San Bernardino. I know we see our kids in the faces of the young people killed in Paris, and I know that after so much war, many Americans are asking whether we are confronted by a cancer that has no immediate cure. The threat from terrorism is real, but we will overcome it.[/quote]
In response to that WH address, Trump said
[quote] “there was something going on” with Obama because he refused to use the term “radical Islamic terrorism,”[/quote]
Trump's "win" against ISIS, is nothing more than propaganda. ISIS lost influence, due to its own repressive practices, and it was allowed to melt back into "less radical" groups, like Nusra, and other Islamic Syrian opposition groups.
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/05/23/obama-global-war-on-terror-is-over@Northwest
Northwest · M
@soar2newhighs hmm, thanks for the link. This was in 2013, and it certainly does not say that "the war on terrorism is over", far from it. From the article:
[quote]"We must define our effort not as a boundless 'Global War on Terror,' but rather as a series of persistent, targeted efforts to dismantle specific networks of violent extremists that threaten America.
Deranged or alienated individuals – often U.S. citizens or legal residents – can do enormous damage, particularly when inspired by larger notions of violent jihad. That pull towards extremism appears to have led to the shooting at Fort Hood, and the bombing of the Boston Marathon," he said. "So that's the current threat: Lethal yet less capable al-Qaida affiliates. Threats to diplomatic facilities and businesses abroad. Homegrown extremists. This is the future of terrorism. We must take these threats seriously, and do all that we can to confront them."[/quote]
Turns out he's right. We cannot "invade" ISIS or Al Qaeda. They are not countries, or large armies. It's about the individuals and what motivates them to commit terror.
[quote]"We must define our effort not as a boundless 'Global War on Terror,' but rather as a series of persistent, targeted efforts to dismantle specific networks of violent extremists that threaten America.
Deranged or alienated individuals – often U.S. citizens or legal residents – can do enormous damage, particularly when inspired by larger notions of violent jihad. That pull towards extremism appears to have led to the shooting at Fort Hood, and the bombing of the Boston Marathon," he said. "So that's the current threat: Lethal yet less capable al-Qaida affiliates. Threats to diplomatic facilities and businesses abroad. Homegrown extremists. This is the future of terrorism. We must take these threats seriously, and do all that we can to confront them."[/quote]
Turns out he's right. We cannot "invade" ISIS or Al Qaeda. They are not countries, or large armies. It's about the individuals and what motivates them to commit terror.