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Will the British Far-Right do well out of Brexit?

Unfortunately, I think they will. Tommy Robinson is the founder of the English Defense League (EDL) and he is organising a protest around Brexit betrayal, just as Parliament is about to vote on Thereasa May's dog's dinner Brexit deal. The EDL are an outright Fascist organisation which have been involved in street violence and though Robinson claims to have left them behind, the EDL and other such groups are avid followers of his.

So why might British people be taken in by such a man and what does Brexit have to do with it?

Under any possible circumstances, a large number of people who voted to leave the EU will be disappointed with the outcome. This is inevitable because Brexit itself was always a fantasy promised by certain politicians but never deliverable in the real world. There are three possible outcomes to the Brexit mess:

1) Brexit is cancelled. People will feel betrayed because what they voted for has been cancelled by politicians.
2) Soft-Brexit. Though the Leave campaign was [i]never[/i] unanimous on leaving the customs union and the single market, many Brexit voters see it as meaning just that. So a partial break with the EU will be seen as a sell-out.
3) Hard-Brexit. A lot of Brexit voters do claim to want this and think it will make the country stronger. Every economic expert thinks it will be a disaster but conservative politicians and press say this will be relatively easy and that is what people want to believe. The reality of hard Brexit is a huge economic crash and Brexit voters will still feel hurt and cheated.

Basically, the only way for people who voted for Brexit to be happy with the outcome is if Brexit hugely cuts immigration and increases the economic strength of the country, whilst retaining national sovereignty. This can't happen and was never gonna happen so one of the three scenarios above will leave people feeling betrayed by both mainstream politicians and the EU. The tabloid press is already pumping out the narrative of national pride lost and betrayal by elites.

Most Brexit voters want nothing to do with the far-right, but a section of them will be seen as low-hanging fruit. 30% of people in this country believe that the government is deliberately hiding immigration figures 18% believe that there is a deliberate plan to make us a Muslim majority country. Most of these people will be Brexit voters.

The aforementioned Robinson is now aiming for political legitimacy by trying to join UKIP (Nigel Farage's old party) and UKIP themselves have gone from 2% to 7% in the polls. UKIP has the potential to push the UK Conservatives further to the nationalist right. The far-right is currently doing very well in Europe and one way or another, its ideas could permeate the UK.

Worrying times.
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If that is true that 18% genuinely believe there’s a plan to make us a Muslim majority country, then what’s left of my hope for this country is dead. That can’t be true, it just...can’t be.
We have a lot of rubbish people but that’s madness
And even if it is true I might just go full Brexiteer-style and refuse to believe it, surely surely Britain can’t have fallen to that level of...even stupidity doesn’t seem strong enough. They’re deranged.

And what can we even do about it? This fight against hate just seems like a lost cause. People just want to hate :(
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@AndrewtheAlu I got those stats from this article:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/28/britons-swallowing-conspiracy-theories-stop-rot-research-fake-news

You must know that so so many Trumpsters on here believe in Conspiracy theories. In America, its really mainstream and over 50% of Republican voters think Obama was born in Kenya. Sometimes people just believe what they want.

It is messed up. I think the only answer is to campaign for politics to provide real solutions to economic needs. End austerity and give people hope etc. I'm a Corbyn supporter and the Labour left is my answer. It's not gonna be easy though, to say the least.
@Burnley123 I know the trumpsters do, but I guess I wanna believe that the British people are somehow...more grown up than that. I guess the last 3 years proves that completely wrong. We’re probably even worse.
I don’t think Labour is *the answer* but it’s definitely a better answer than we have now. At least post-brexit with a no deal labour would keep us on the right track rather than going full rees mogg and turning the UK into a deregulated profit farm. I’m not looking forward to that TV debate though lol. May saying her useless deal is amazing and Corbyn saying his non-existent hypothetical deal would have been better. Both call each other incompetent and both have a point, although tbf at least politically Corbyn doesn’t seem to have much option than to just say labour could have done it better. Wouldn’t that be an excellent time for labour to finally come out in support of a people’s vote though....lol in my dreams.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@AndrewtheAlu Well yeah, I'm a Labour Party member and I agree with you. Much as I like Corbyn, he can't really negotiate a much better deal with the EU. He should come out for the 2nd ref at this point. I joined Labour because I agree with his values and it means that Labour has policies which are actually different to the Conservatives. That wouldn't have happened without him.
@Burnley123 but do you think he will? I can’t see it actually happening really or surely they’d have done it already.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@AndrewtheAlu Current policy is to call for a general election if May's deal is voted down. If that is refused then they will call for a referendum. Problem is that its not in their hands to get a second ref because they are not in power. I have honestly no idea how this will play out but I also hope Brexit is cancelled.
@Burnley123 a general election seems like a bit of a long shot really though 😅 it looks pretty clear that labour would win that so there’s no way the government would give it to them.
I heard today (I think it was shelagh fogerty but I’m not sure) that if labour did support a 2nd referendum then with them, snp, Lib dems and current Tory remain rebels (and Caroline lucas lol) then they would have 51% but really that’s a bit of an ambitious prediction 😅 but there’s some hope for ya.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@AndrewtheAlu I don't think a general election is a long-shot. I get your reasons and in normal times there is no reason for the Tories to agree to an election or a referendum but these are not normal times. If (as looks likely) May's Brexit deal is voted down in both readings; there will be a political deadlock in Parliament. If no Brexit deal can be voted through then eventually something has to give. What does give, I do not know because the situation is such a mess.