Is nationalism the opposite of patriotism ?

President Emmanuel Macron of France speaking today at a ceremony in Paris to mark the 100th anniversary of the first world war armistice ;

"Patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism. Nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism,” he said. “In saying ‘Our interests first, whatever happens to the others,’ you erase the most precious thing a nation can have, that which makes it live, that which causes it to be great and that which is most important: Its moral values.”

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MistyCee

I like the bit about moral values, but I'm sick of arguing about nationalism, patriotism, and globalism.

In the end, I think we're moving towards a world where global economics and corporations are going to dominate nation states eventually anyway, and while I'm not convinced that's a good thing, I think dealing with it is what our leaders should be doing, and not getting hung up on conspiracies or trying to use issues to line their own pockets and feed their own egos.

RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M

@MistyCee Corporations and financial institutions already determine national governmental policy to some degree , and in some cases have usurped sovereign power. Just look what happened to Greece.

MistyCee

@RodionRomanovitch Yup. And I always thought that it was inevitable, after fascism and communism had their days of resistance, but I guess some folks want to go back to the "good old days" whatever that means.

I really always thought Wilson was mostly just pushing too fast with the League of Nations, and I guess so was the UN.

We're still really getting over old style colonialism and it's repercussions, though.