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No Blue Wave

The media could not lie and make it happen. Crazy spending could not make it happen. As always the silent majority has spoken at the polls.
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windinhishair · 61-69, M
You got part of this one right, Jack. The silent majority has spoken, and Democrats now control the House as a result. Even with voter suppression and gerrymandering, Democrats won House races nationwide by something between 6 and 10 percent overall. It takes somewhere around a 5% majority for Democrats to break even in the House, given Republican shenanigans.
SheikYerbouti · 51-55, M
@windinhishair So, when Democrats win it's honest. If Republicans win it's dishonest?
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@SheikYerbouti That's not what I said. Republicans have built in structural advantages that enhance their ability to win seats in the House nationwide. This has resulted in a tilted playing field that is difficult to overcome. The fact that the Democrats did overcome the structural impediments shows just how strong their candidates were in this election year.
SheikYerbouti · 51-55, M
@windinhishair It is what you're saying. Republican shenanigans!? Yeah, that's not biased.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@windinhishair I understand that there is wide speculation that the Norwegians have interfered with this election.

I'm going to demand a senseless, expensive and time wasting investigation with which I can hurl demeaning innuendos and accusations.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@SheikYerbouti It is a fact that gerrymandering significantly favors Republicans nationwide. Look at Pennsylvania as an example. In 2016, the Republicans won the state congressional races 12-6 with gerrymandered districts, similar to what they've done in the past few elections with the same districts. Court-ordered redistricting this year to create fair districts changed the makeup to 9-9 after last night's results, which better reflects the number of votes cast.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Budwick Benghazi?
SheikYerbouti · 51-55, M
@windinhishair A fact, huh? Sure because it fits your narrative. Even after the fact they lost the House.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@SheikYerbouti A fact, because it is true. If you look at districting in many states, you'll see similar patterns. Texas is a good example. Democrats have had more House votes in many recent elections nationwide when the House was solidly Republican, due to gerrymandering. Districts should be drawn by a bipartisan commission in every state to prevent gerrymandering by either party. In fact, at least two states had this very issue on the ballot yesterday because of the past problems.
SheikYerbouti · 51-55, M
@windinhishair Redistricting is legal, you may not like that fact. So, if the GOP "rigged" it, how come they lost the House? What would be the purpose? Everything is not a conspiracy.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@SheikYerbouti Some states have districts that are drawn up fairly by bipartisan commissions. Some states have gerrymandered districts. California is gerrymandered to benefit democrats. If you take all of the states together (which is how the House is made up), Republicans have enjoyed a significant advantage since redistricting in the early 2010s. Democrats won the national vote by more than 6%, which is why they won the House. Had they won by only 3 or 4%, the House would still be solidly Republican.

Gerrymandering doesn't guarantee victory--it only makes it more likely, and in some cases much more likely. It didn't work this time around because there were so many more Democratic votes.
SheikYerbouti · 51-55, M
@windinhishair Point being it's legal, each state decides. The process worked.
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windinhishair · 61-69, M
@SW-User I have no problem with a Benghazi investigation. In fact, I supported one being done to determine what happened, why it happened, and what can be done to prevent something like it from happening in the future. That's what Congress should do and is part of their constitutional duty.

I do have a problem with Benghazi 2, Benghazi 3, Benghazi 4, Benghazi 5, Benghazi 6, and Benghazi 7, spending tens of millions of dollars for the sole purpose of damaging a potential candidate for president, when one thorough investigation should suffice.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@SheikYerbouti The process did work. For Republicans. Will you feel so sanguine and support the process if the Democrats do the same thing after 2030 when the demographics shift, so the House will become permanently Democratic?
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windinhishair · 61-69, M
@SW-User And yet none of the subsequent investigations found any wrongdoing. They were nothing more than political stunts.
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windinhishair · 61-69, M
@SW-User If crimes were committed, people should be charged with crimes in accordance with federal law.

Having 7 separate Benghazi investigations was clearly a political stunt. Just like the 54 votes to end Obamacare.
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windinhishair · 61-69, M
@SW-User Since 7 is too few bogus investigations on Benghazi, how many bogus investigations would be enough? Ten? Twenty? 100? Should there be a standing Benghazi Investigation Committee, at the same level as the Oversight Committee or the Finance Committee?
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windinhishair · 61-69, M
@SW-User So how many investigations does it take to find out what happened? And since the Republicans have had total control of Congress for years, what is stopping them from investigating it now if there is something there?
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windinhishair · 61-69, M
@SW-User Destroying evidence is a crime. If the Republicans have evidence of destruction of evidence, charge someone. Nothing at all prevents it from happening. Nothing. Maybe you can even LOCK HER UP. Just do it if you have evidence.
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