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Northwest 路 M
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Yes, because the brown people, crossing the border illegally, are NOT doctors, lawyers and fireman. The American brown people, ARE doctors, lawyers, firemen and, yes, Judges. You know, kind of like the Brown Judge, from Connecticut, who ruled against Trump in the Trump University case, and Trump said that the Judge ruled against him, because he's Mexican and Trump is building a wall.
Yes, because the brown people, crossing the border illegally, are NOT doctors, lawyers and fireman. The American brown people, ARE doctors, lawyers, firemen and, yes, Judges. You know, kind of like the Brown Judge, from Connecticut, who ruled against Trump in the Trump University case, and Trump said that the Judge ruled against him, because he's Mexican and Trump is building a wall.
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CopperCicada 路 M
@Northwest The OP is legit. I have known people who have entered this country illegally who ended up bettering themselves far beyond manual labor. We have a conflicted narrative about this.
Northwest 路 M
@CopperCicada Who said that people who entered the country illegally, cannot better themselves? The OP's point is orthogonal to the issues illegals deal with, and have always dealt with.
[b][i][u]Until they become legal[/u][/i][/b], the only thing they can do, is manual labor, and that's reality, not slogans and memes.
[b][i][u]Until they become legal[/u][/i][/b], the only thing they can do, is manual labor, and that's reality, not slogans and memes.
CopperCicada 路 M
@Northwest I don't know. I've met people who have become highly accomplished under deferred action.
Northwest 路 M
@CopperCicada I will repeat: [b][i][u]Until they become legal[/u][/i][/b]
deferred action IS legal, and it can be taken away. 800,000 young people have received DACA protection, and half of those are currently attending US colleges, 4,000 or so, at UC Berkeley. This is LEGAL.
Their parents (who may be deported now), were doing manual labor, until they got caught.
Being ABLE to do something is orthogonal to being ALLOWED to do something.
deferred action IS legal, and it can be taken away. 800,000 young people have received DACA protection, and half of those are currently attending US colleges, 4,000 or so, at UC Berkeley. This is LEGAL.
Their parents (who may be deported now), were doing manual labor, until they got caught.
Being ABLE to do something is orthogonal to being ALLOWED to do something.
CopperCicada 路 M
@Northwest Well, you're sane, so you do recognize deferred action as legal. That's often not the case discussing these things.
My comment stands. I know people who are illegal AF who have become highly accomplished.
I know a few people who have their own businesses. Better than I can do.
My comment stands. I know people who are illegal AF who have become highly accomplished.
I know a few people who have their own businesses. Better than I can do.
Northwest 路 M
@CopperCicada It's not my opinion, or whether or not I recognize it. It's the law. Until it's repealed, it remains law, as signed by President Obama. I am entitled to my own opinion, but I am not entitled to my own facts.
I know one illegal immigrant, who came to the US, with a Master's in Math, a Master's in Musicology, and started one of the earliest, most successful companies in the tech space: Borland. He sued the US, and won a Green Card, on the basis that is he were to be deported, hundreds of people would lose their jobs. He, however, did not swim across the Rio Grande, or use a Coyote. He flew into the San Francisco Airport and went through immigration and customs.
This was more than 3 decades though, and plenty of people, took advantage of the Reagan and Bush amnesty programs, to become legal. I know one of these people. He started a business, after the amnesty, and he's now one of the biggest US-based manufacturers of AV & home automation equipment.
Being ABLE to do something is orthogonal to being ALLOWED to do it, and @xeni is right, When they cross the border illegally, now, the normal distribution is manual labor.
I know one illegal immigrant, who came to the US, with a Master's in Math, a Master's in Musicology, and started one of the earliest, most successful companies in the tech space: Borland. He sued the US, and won a Green Card, on the basis that is he were to be deported, hundreds of people would lose their jobs. He, however, did not swim across the Rio Grande, or use a Coyote. He flew into the San Francisco Airport and went through immigration and customs.
This was more than 3 decades though, and plenty of people, took advantage of the Reagan and Bush amnesty programs, to become legal. I know one of these people. He started a business, after the amnesty, and he's now one of the biggest US-based manufacturers of AV & home automation equipment.
Being ABLE to do something is orthogonal to being ALLOWED to do it, and @xeni is right, When they cross the border illegally, now, the normal distribution is manual labor.