Does anyone else notice the states ran by the dems are also the ones that dont require picture id to vote

Supposedly it's racist but wait you can't buy beer or cigarettes, get a job, apply for housing, enter a government building and slot of other things without a photo ID so is all that racist too. Hell in my community a cop can stop you at any time for any reason and ask for it and arrest you if you don't have one. If you are to lazy to go spend 10 dollars to get an ID than that's your problem not the government being racist

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CountScrofula · 41-45, M

There's no evidence of mass voter fraud. It's a stupid conspiracy made up to suppress vote.

There is no shortage of evidence for this. It's tiresome and insulting. Stop believing everything your family and cherry picked media tell you and think for your fucking self for once.

Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F

@CountScrofula but there's so many reasons why you need state issued id

MarmeeMarch · M

@CountScrofula maybe no hard data - but its nice to have a safeguard incase -

CountScrofula · 41-45, M

@MarmeeMarch @Mountainlady16 Since when do people with your politics support laws that fix things which aren't broken? Nanny state much?

There are so many more effective ways to combat problems in voting that don't make it harder to vote.

MarmeeMarch · M

@CountScrofula Suppress a vote - what does that mean ? if you want to vote then wake up at 11 AM like all you welfare bums normally do - run a comb through your hair - get dressed and vote - or is that too much trouble.

Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F

@CountScrofula what's so difficult about buying a 10 dollar state issued id card that you need for alot more than voting

CountScrofula · 41-45, M

@Mountainlady16 Okay, I'm going to assume you're actually asking this question and care about my answer.

Here's how this works.

Getting people to vote is hard work because voting is a pain in the ass. You need to knock on doors, offer to drive people, call people on election day and push push push. If something makes voting harder, people will stay at home.

I have a car and money. Keeping an up to date ID is no problem at all, and I have to do that or I can't drive.

Lots of people don't have cars and money, and worse yet, registries are often nowhere near where they live. So if you live in a poor neighbourhood, getting to a registry is [i]really hard[/i].

Voter ID laws provably reduce minority votes. Here's an academic study outlining how it happens.

http://pages.ucsd.edu/~zhajnal/page5/documents/voterIDhajnaletal.pdf

And then you look at the history. There is a clear, easy to read up history on suppressing minority vote through various legal tactics of 'reasonable steps' that have a provable agenda.

This isn't some silly conspiracy theory. This has been in courts, multiple academic studies, and the news since emancipation. Just do some googling on 'history voter suppression in the united states' and educate yourself.

Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F

@CountScrofula but without id a person can walk in and say they are anyone and vote Even a dead person. Who are not automatically taken off rolls when they die. In fact my grandpa noticed when he took my great-grandmother to vote in 2008 that his dad who died 10 years before was still listed above hers on the roll

MarmeeMarch · M

@CountScrofula Have you ever heard of a MAIL IN BALLOT -- oh licking a stamp such hard work.

CountScrofula · 41-45, M

@MarmeeMarch Read the study or learn to use google, dude. I'm sick of arguing about stuff you could easily find out yourself if you had a lick of curiosity.

MarmeeMarch · M

@CountScrofula You are the one that it is making it sound like voting is an all day project.

Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F

@CountScrofula you don't even live in the US