bijouxbroussard · F
I guess they support his racism, which I pretty much knew they did. No one has disavowed that, if they can even see it. 😞
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@bijouxbroussard I think there are some of his supporters who embrace it, some who tolerate it as a means to an end, and many others who deny it as a way of coping with the cognitive dissonance that must come from supporting such a morally bankrupt human being.
bijouxbroussard · F
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The only point you've established is "I don't think it's racist". Especially in the case of Obama, Trump has told several flat out lies about his predecessor. He has no other reason to focus on Obama as he has but for his history going back 40+ years of racism. You're asking for an "informed" rebuttal---you, of course defining what is informed, just as you define what is racist. I don't know if you're a person of color or not. Most recognize the rhetoric and can define it. Many whites who are aware recognize it, too. But those who either don't want to acknowledge it or worse, agree with Trump (not all Nigerians live in "huts", btw, and there is in fact an African American middle and upper class right here in the U.S., and here's a hint---they're not all celebrities or people who work for Trump). So someone who wants to run for president but has to stereotype in order to dismiss and exclude people, focusing on race (or ethnicity, if you like) is a racist. I've had this conversation more times than I can tell you, and I figured posting the man's own words would settle things. Usually, when I encounter Trump supporters I just block them and save myself the headache. If you folks aren't racists yourselves, you're either clueless about it or apathetic. And I have no patience for that anymore. Sorry.
I can keep going but I think I have established a fair point.
The only point you've established is "I don't think it's racist". Especially in the case of Obama, Trump has told several flat out lies about his predecessor. He has no other reason to focus on Obama as he has but for his history going back 40+ years of racism. You're asking for an "informed" rebuttal---you, of course defining what is informed, just as you define what is racist. I don't know if you're a person of color or not. Most recognize the rhetoric and can define it. Many whites who are aware recognize it, too. But those who either don't want to acknowledge it or worse, agree with Trump (not all Nigerians live in "huts", btw, and there is in fact an African American middle and upper class right here in the U.S., and here's a hint---they're not all celebrities or people who work for Trump). So someone who wants to run for president but has to stereotype in order to dismiss and exclude people, focusing on race (or ethnicity, if you like) is a racist. I've had this conversation more times than I can tell you, and I figured posting the man's own words would settle things. Usually, when I encounter Trump supporters I just block them and save myself the headache. If you folks aren't racists yourselves, you're either clueless about it or apathetic. And I have no patience for that anymore. Sorry.
Smtwn829 · 36-40, M
@bijouxbroussard
"Especially in the case of Obama, he's told several flat out lies about his predecessor." - Even if the statement is factually innaccurate it is still not a statement targeting a race. It is targeted at a single individual.
"and there is in fact an African American middle and upper class right here in the U.S." - Your right there is, there are also some that are very wealthy.
"not all Nigerians live in "huts"" -Also true and also why I included more information to provide a reference to conditions in the country.
I am happy to agree with you the he does stereotype more than he should. Also that he says shit he shouldn't. I don't agree with everything the man says. There are somethings I would call racism such as affirmative action. I think it should be abolished. If anything put thing on the books that says any one that meets the requirements can not be denied based on race, religion, ideals, or anything else. I am a firm believer that if people want equality for everyone then we should hit the law books and start re-writing getting rid of laws, updating and changing them. Though leave the constitution alone.
I would also say that there is not a single illegal immigrant that is law abiding. they might not be breaking laws once they are here. They did however break a law to get here. they can process like all the legal immigrants did.
Also just to stir the pot a bit more. Hillary is still a criminal in my book. I work in IT and if anything even remotely related to doing something like that happened on my watch there would be jail time for several people involved.
"Especially in the case of Obama, he's told several flat out lies about his predecessor." - Even if the statement is factually innaccurate it is still not a statement targeting a race. It is targeted at a single individual.
"and there is in fact an African American middle and upper class right here in the U.S." - Your right there is, there are also some that are very wealthy.
"not all Nigerians live in "huts"" -Also true and also why I included more information to provide a reference to conditions in the country.
I am happy to agree with you the he does stereotype more than he should. Also that he says shit he shouldn't. I don't agree with everything the man says. There are somethings I would call racism such as affirmative action. I think it should be abolished. If anything put thing on the books that says any one that meets the requirements can not be denied based on race, religion, ideals, or anything else. I am a firm believer that if people want equality for everyone then we should hit the law books and start re-writing getting rid of laws, updating and changing them. Though leave the constitution alone.
I would also say that there is not a single illegal immigrant that is law abiding. they might not be breaking laws once they are here. They did however break a law to get here. they can process like all the legal immigrants did.
Also just to stir the pot a bit more. Hillary is still a criminal in my book. I work in IT and if anything even remotely related to doing something like that happened on my watch there would be jail time for several people involved.

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Smtwn829 · 36-40, M
lots I don't agree with. But he isn't aiming for socialism so +100 in my book.

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@Smtwn829 This isn't a debate room. I asked a SIMPLE question.
FunReader55 · 51-55, M
Of course! But he’s still not Hillary!!

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@FunReader55 That's very, very true!
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@FunReader55 BINGO!
PrincessVelvet · F
I'm his biggest fan and I don't support his tweeting because he has such poor command of the English language. I mean it's like you gave a phone to chimp with a twitter account. I can't tell if it's him or a 4th grader. Then everyone laughs at us because you don't really understand what he's saying you have to try to get the just of it. I like Sarah Sanders and Kellyanne Conway who do Trump speak and translate for him

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@PrincessVelvet I can respect that you actually SEE that!
NiftyWhite · 46-50, F
interesting post. i enjoyed reading the answers
InvaderNice · 26-30, M
Yeah, I’m not afraid to admit he’s not perfect.
ScrewThisImDone · 26-30, F
Let's see, the constant tweeting and apparent history of womanizing, but I don't think there's ever been a non-womanizing male politician, unless they were gay or something.