Perhaps since she demanded to testify the Senate committee should subpoena Dr Ford?

That she wants an FBI investigation "before" she meets with the Judiciary committee suggests that her motivation is to delay the confirmation and senate vote.

I would think that someone who believes they were assaulted would want the truth to come out regardless of whether Kavanaugh is confirmed or not.

An appointment to the Supreme Court isn't an irreversible event. Supreme court judges can be impeached, just like members of congress and presidents.

@Heartlander the timing is what counts. feinstein knew. she didn't say anything during their private meetings or the hearings. then at the 11th hour, she reveals it...Ford's attorney is a die hard Clinton fan. says a lot. someone is pulling her strings.

@akindheart Kavanaugh is already just one notch below the Supreme Court. The DC Circuit Court is a very powerful court.

This all speaks more about partisan shenanigans than anything else.

The person needing to be investigated is Dianne Feinstein.

@akindheart That's how it works on both sides. If you think Kavanaugh was nominated for his judicial expertise, you're naive. He passed a few litmus tests, that's all.

@Heartlander yes indeed. amazing she can remember what happened but the other 3 present said it didn't happen including her best friend. if it had happened to me, it would be seared in my brain. her timing is off, her facts are off and oh btw, Kavanaugh has found his 1982 calendar-he was not there...supposedly has proof.

@LeopoldBloom i would call 6 FBI vettings more than a few litmus tests. the truth is, the dems hoped to block him. when that didn't happen, they leaked the confidential (if you believe that) report to the press from Ford. when that didn't work, they pulled out victim 2...come on. AND THEN tried to change the rule of law.

To be fair my suspicion is that a woman which I’m not of course, if attacked sexually would have the image of the face of the accuser etched permanently on her mind. What do you ladies think? I just don’t understand how any of us or the media can think they/we k w what happened. We were not there. @LeopoldBloom @akindheart

@jackjjackson The problem is that given the culture at that school and Kavanaugh's documented participation (by his friend Mark Judge, who wrote a book about how much the two of them drank), the allegations are somewhat plausible. It wouldn't make sense if someone accused Mike Pence of sexual assault, for example. But accusing a guy who spent ages 15 to 25 blind drunk, you have to admit that it's possible. Kavanaugh has never repudiated that attitude even if he didn't assault Ford.

Just curious, if it were conclusively proven to your satisfaction that Ford's allegations are true, would you want Kavanaugh to withdraw? What if he were a liberal Democrat with the same allegations made against him - would that make a difference?

If the allegations are true Kavanaugh is disqualified. It would mean he is a bald faced liar. Not a partisan issue for me. @LeopoldBloom

@jackjjackson We already know he's a liar, just not about this.

Oh? How do we know that? @LeopoldBloom

@jackjjackson He perjured himself in his original hearing to become a federal judge, he is lying about not overturning Roe v. Wade, and he has not come clean about who paid off his gambling debts. The guy is tainted and whether he's a rapist or not is just another detail of how scummy he is.

He has stated all along that Roe v Wade is a precedent. You LIE. @LeopoldBloom

@jackjjackson @LeopoldBloom

Kavanaugh did state that roe vs Wade was a precedent. A good answer if he stays on the D.C curcuit court. Unfortunetly...that gives little information about his views as a supreme court judge, who could change that precedent. Which is why some feel he is as good as lying by hiding his views.

He's not lying...he's just dodging the question. One of his questions was asking for his thoughts on the social and economical implications of roe vs. Wade...and all he said was that he understood that many people have strong views on roe vs. Wade. What kind of answer is that?

We do know that Trump promised to pick an antiabortion judge and then picked Kavanaugh. So yeah some people are naturally suspicious.

@LeopoldBloom where did you get this information? mark judge said he was NOT at that party.

Of course some people are just plain naturally suspicious lol. Based on what the court did with the ACA and other cases, this is not a court at all likely to reverse precedent. They are strict constitionists. They don’t change existing law. That thr way they roll. It’s in their DNA. @Scribbles

My suggestion is that the information Shoes recites was created by Shoes or others to seemingly support Shoes position. @akindheart

@jackjjackson to answer your pondering/question about remembering the face of someone who sexually assaults or rapes or whatever. I'd have to say that no it doesn't always get "etched" in your brain.

It's maybe etched in your brain for about 5 years maybe...but then it fades if you never see that person around. Anyway... Your mind naturally wants to forget to a degree, you know? I had my throat at knifepoint and sexually assaulted by a friend of a friend when i stayed over at a friends house once oh...about 15 years ago. I wouldn't be able to pick the guy out anymore...I just remember a few vague meaningless features.

If a guy gropes me at a party or tries to take my clothes off or exposes his penis at me,or gets way too aggressive and I didn't want it... etc... l I probably don't care enough to remember them years later.
I'd just knee him if he doesn't stop or make fun of him, or threaten him or act "like a bitch". Works great. You get your justice, and move on. Those guys aren't scary...just a little stupid. Of course what is not scary to me might be scary to others. Idk


I think if you have more of a relationship then its different. Because you have memories other then the traumatic one or ones to draw upon
I've also been sexual assaulted by a family member who would blackmail or use violence on me to get me to comply and that was many many times. Him I'LL always remember and have etched in my brain. I even have an aversion to straight black hair and big and tall men because of it too.

Anyway, that's just my take on it. It would be hard to remember the person in a 35 year old case...but not impossible I think.

That sounds very reasonable thoughtful and fair 😉 @Scribbles

@jackjjackson If the religious right believed he doesn't intend to overturn Roe, they'd be screaming for him to withdraw and be replaced with someone who will. The fact that they support him proves that they know he's lying about this.

@akindheart Then let's hear Judge's testimony under oath.

Isn’t that the plan? Everyone testifies under oath? @LeopoldBloom

@jackjjackson well it was until blasey ford tried to change the rules of law. lets see if she shows up tomorrow.

@Scribbles Interesting how TV news magazines always have stories about innocent people being freed after serving years in prison based on being positively identified by the victim or witnesses. But then, years later, DNA evidence proves that it was impossible for the convicted to have committed the crime. Most often, these conviction was based on emotions or manipulation of non-factual evidence rather than real facts.

This situation is all about emotion and fear. So little evidence, and the accusers all seem to have very strong political motives, as do members of the US Senate. The fear is that if members of the senate don't vote one way or the other, they will incur such wrath from the other side to make life untenable. This is the tyranny of Democracy that the Bill of Rights is supposed to protect us from. So frightening to see members of the senate themselves elevating emotions above the need for evidence and due process.

Politicians are ho’s and I apologize in advance for possibly insulting ho’s @Heartlander