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It's amazing how people will insist that something false is true even when shown redundant irrefutable proof of falsehood.

Pardon the lack of punctuation. I happen to hold some unpopular conservative opinions, but I try not to embarrass myself by making ridiculous claims. There is a rumor being passed around as a fact by some of my fellow conservatives, that John Mccain was pardoned for treason by Richard Nixon. This is a facebook rumor that has no basis in fact. It never happened and the evidence that it never happened is overwhelming! Unless there was a massive 'cover up' because of Mccains family connections? Anyway, they (my conservative friends off line,) are very angry with me and are now; insisting that it was reported on the news as 'fact'. I tried to show them that it was a facebook rumor that got momentum and popularity that had no historical support whatsoever, and now I am a "commie sympathizer". I tried to explain that it is counter productive to make obviously false claims in a rhetorical sense. The more proof I provided, the angrier they became. It's kind of a dangerous situation because the 'angry' person is my landlady! She and her boyfriend are livid because I told them it was "counter productive to make obviously false claims in an argument" if you have the slightest hope for planting seeds of persuasion. It's embarrassing to boot. It embarrasses me when my fellow conservatives use sensationalist falsehoods from social media to support their arguments on public forums and in conversations. What say you, (if anything at all?) ?
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SW-User
It used to be a conservstive movement with a fringe element and now it’s a fringe movement with a conservative element.
@SW-User I totally understand how a true liberal might feel that way. A politically charged atmosphere seems to marginalize moderate thought. Everyone 'doubles down'- Everyone 'pedals down hill'. It's simple human passion, and it is exquisite and deadly. I'm as guilty as anyone of flying into a rage, and fantasizing about guerrilla warfare between the right and the left. I wish we could go back to just keeping each other in check. I wish we could all do more 'responding' and less 'reacting'. I keep saying I'm working on my 'reaction to response' ratio, but everyday, I revert to passionate reactions to what my perception interprets as counter productive or destructive.
SW-User
I’m not a liberal but there seems little point of making that point anymore. The country needs two functioning parties, and there isn’t one on the right. There is the loony left, but that is not the mainstream of the party. The same can’t be said for Republicans. I don’t dream of civil war, though!@puck61
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@SW-User This is untrue. Movements and definitions aside the hatred of those who are complaining about the return of societal standards, morality, freedom of speech and self determinism being back in control are the ones dwindling into the margins of society.

That's the definition of a fringe group. Call it liberalism when it's actually Marxism, call it leftism when it's really fascism, or crybaby about your imagined victim rights and accuse others of hatred as you like it won't matter to the majority anymore.

To sum it up ordinary people that don't define themselves or others the way you do have had 50 years of this anything goes nonsense.

We're no longer listening to the officially approved media bs that divided us in the first place.

You think Trump is your enemy? He's not. You're the only obstacle there is to you being happy about your life.

I don't owe you anything. But I'm giving you this truth anyway. Because I'm a fair person and until I'm attacked and labeled, I'll share the truth.
SW-User
@SteelHands You lost me when you call liberalism Marxism. I am neither but you know nothing about the political philosophy of Karl Marx if you think liberalism is Marxism.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
You seem to have missed the point of what I said. If you can't read very well or consider it carefully when you read it that's not anyone's problem but your own.
@SteelHands Gosh, I don't see any need for condescension. FFW hasn't been the least bit out of line with you.

Not another word from me though, I've already stuck my nose where it didn't belong. Apologies.