If you have any questions about where Trump's allegiance lies..

They have the nuclear capabilities to destroy the entirety of America. The choices are: ignore it, start a war, become allies and work from the inside to shut them down. Only logical option is to act like we’re best buds for a while. @CountScrofula

@GlitterBug Sure, I get that. Clinton was a warmonger and I'm happy we're not at war with Russia which she clearly wanted. I'm just confused.

The old order was the western liberal democracies were allied, with similar forms of government and global agendas.

Russia is a plutocracy with its own agenda. We do business with them, but aren't friends. They have also actively worked to undermine the west through stuff like the Estonia cyber attack, or the Internet Research Agency's work in Ukraine. Stuff you want to dis incentivize.

So although peaceful relations are good... this is more than that. This is a complete reworking of the global order.

What the US looks to be doing is leaving the EU agenda to join up with the Russian agenda. And I don't know [i]why[/i].

We did leave the EU but we aren’t joining up with Russia @CountScrofula

@GlitterBug Well what's 'joining up'?

Trump is openly talking about Russia as a friend and believing their denials about the eighty million things they've been accused of.

Like my question here is why is befriending Russia at the expense of old allies the best move? What's the end game?

@CountScrofula I was mistaken when I said we left the EU by the way, we did not. Not sure why I thought we did.
I think there’s just a whole lot of corruption honestly. These people say this and these people say that but nobody really knows what actually is going on. Like there’s supposed to be missing servers somewhere but someone is saying the servers were recovered and someone says they weren’t but it’s so back and forth nobody has the answers.
All honesty I think everyone is trying to tone down the aggressive mood that surrounds certain countries like Russia. We don’t have to be allies to get along and chances are if we get along, we’re not in any immediate danger. Problem is nobody likes trump. He seems to be trying to create a general atmosphere of comfort(though he has a shit way with words) but people aren’t accepting his efforts, instead they’re ridiculing him for the smallest things and wanting to impeach him for doing nothing wrong.
I think just a big combination of stuff is causing too much confusion and misinformation doesn’t help.
Sorry if I rambled too much or don’t make sense btw

@GlitterBug Hey I appreciate the time you took to respond.

I think there's a WHOLE lotta bullshit going on about Russia and again - I prefer peace to war and Trump's strategy is certainly going to kill fewer people than Hillary Clinton's would have.

I don't care about the Russia DNC hack. Whether it happened or not, whatever. People still got to vote and all it did was expose the DNC as being against Sanders. Clinton sucks and deserved to lose, even if I think Trump is a nightmare.

But I think the general line of "Russia is fucking with us" is broadly correct and that doesn't seem to matter to Trump for reasons I find confusing. Seeking peace is fine. But "Hey can you stop flooding Facebook with political memes to get people to hate each other" is a reasonable request.

And nobody likes Trump because he was elected to stick it to the PC left and make liberals cry. Every other democracy is to the left of Trump. So they all hate him. Why wouldn't they? His job is to make them hate him.

You can't demand liberal tears and then get all horrified when they think your leader is a psychopath.

@CountScrofula very good points. I haven’t quite looked at it that way.