You weren’t raised right if you’re response to imprisoned children is “they’re illegal aliens”.
We don’t have ideological differences, you lack morality..
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TheMorningsStar · 26-30, M
ScrewThisImDone · 26-30, F
@TheMorningsStar Because now the whiner party doesn't have the person they wanted in office, so they're throwing their tantrums in front of anyone they can find.
@TheMorningsStar Lots of reasons, from Sessions bragging about the policy to Trump blaming it on the Democrats, but ... why does it matter?
If its something be outraged about, and it was happening then, then maybe there should have been outrage. But its happening now, and now is where we are.
If its something be outraged about, and it was happening then, then maybe there should have been outrage. But its happening now, and now is where we are.
TheMorningsStar · 26-30, M
@MistyCee Except that there isn't really anything wrong with it.
Let's say that a citizen got arrested, what happens to their kid? If there is no one there to take care of the kid, they get taken away or given to a LEGAL guardian.
That is essentially what is happening at the border, except there is no legal guardian for them, so what do you do? You can either imprison them with the others (which the courts have said you can't do), send them back across the border, get rid of all border control, or do what is being done.
Let's say that a citizen got arrested, what happens to their kid? If there is no one there to take care of the kid, they get taken away or given to a LEGAL guardian.
That is essentially what is happening at the border, except there is no legal guardian for them, so what do you do? You can either imprison them with the others (which the courts have said you can't do), send them back across the border, get rid of all border control, or do what is being done.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@TheMorningsStar Politifact says that's false.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/jun/19/matt-schlapp/no-donald-trumps-separation-immigrant-families-was/
[quote]Immigration experts we spoke to said Obama-era policies did lead to some family separations, but only relatively rarely, and nowhere near the rate of the Trump administration. (A Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman said the Obama administration did not count the number of families separated at the border.)
"Obama generally refrained from prosecution in cases involving adults who crossed the border with their kids," said Peter Margulies, an immigration law and national security law professor at Roger Williams University School of Law. "In contrast, the current administration has chosen to prosecute adult border-crossers, even when they have kids. That's a choice — one fundamentally different from the choice made by both Obama and previous presidents of both parties."
Denise Gilman, a law professor who directs the immigration clinic at the University of Texas School of Law, said immigration attorneys "occasionally" saw separated families under the Obama administration.
"However, these families were usually reunited quite quickly once identified," she said, "even if that meant release of a parent from adult detention."
In Trump’s case, family separations are a feature, not a bug, of the administration’s border policies, said David Fitzgerald, who co-directs the Center for Comparative Immigration Studies.[/quote]
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/jun/19/matt-schlapp/no-donald-trumps-separation-immigrant-families-was/
[quote]Immigration experts we spoke to said Obama-era policies did lead to some family separations, but only relatively rarely, and nowhere near the rate of the Trump administration. (A Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman said the Obama administration did not count the number of families separated at the border.)
"Obama generally refrained from prosecution in cases involving adults who crossed the border with their kids," said Peter Margulies, an immigration law and national security law professor at Roger Williams University School of Law. "In contrast, the current administration has chosen to prosecute adult border-crossers, even when they have kids. That's a choice — one fundamentally different from the choice made by both Obama and previous presidents of both parties."
Denise Gilman, a law professor who directs the immigration clinic at the University of Texas School of Law, said immigration attorneys "occasionally" saw separated families under the Obama administration.
"However, these families were usually reunited quite quickly once identified," she said, "even if that meant release of a parent from adult detention."
In Trump’s case, family separations are a feature, not a bug, of the administration’s border policies, said David Fitzgerald, who co-directs the Center for Comparative Immigration Studies.[/quote]
@TheMorningsStar Whilst Obama did deport more people than Bush, i think the problem is that there wasn't such a hateful climate surrounding it at the time. Obama was also a lot better with his words, whilst Trump tends to be purposefully inflammatory.
TheMorningsStar · 26-30, M
@SatanBurger
Except it isn't false as even your quoted section admits it happened under Obama... True, Obama decided not to enforce border control as often as Trump, but so what? These people are crossing the border ILLEGALLY, and so Trump has every right to enforce the law on these criminals.
Except it isn't false as even your quoted section admits it happened under Obama... True, Obama decided not to enforce border control as often as Trump, but so what? These people are crossing the border ILLEGALLY, and so Trump has every right to enforce the law on these criminals.