Knowledge

@St0ut he’s not even going to get a second term, so the third term thing is a moot point, unconstitutional though it may be.

@Gwangi my point stands. Reguradless

@St0ut How about that? Leftists who would stand on principle, even if it would have prevented a trump election. The fact is that literacy tests were used to discriminate against millions of minorities up until the 1960s. It was wrong then, and it is wrong now.

@windinhishair i totally agree. There are enough other voter suppression mechanisms out there. We do not need another one.

Again this is not a literacy test. As far as I know no one reads a ballot for you. So you have to be literate de facto.

@St0ut What was called a "literacy test" in the South and other areas of the US was exactly the type of test that you describe. If you couldn't answer whatever questions were asked, you were denied the vote.

@windinhishair the frustrating thing is I think you know exactly what i am trying to do.

And instead of thinking of a solution you called me a racist.

Fuck finding common ground.
Fuck trying to make the electorate more educated and more engaged

The only way a cotiszery can keep the govt in check is if they know the laws.


Making them know the basic is considered evil. That’s a quote here

@St0ut I never called you a racist. I simply pointed out how the same thing you want to do was abused in the past, and would be likely abused again. I would like more educated voters, but you cannot do it through a mechanism that is easily used to suppress minority vote, and has been used in precisely that way in the past. Focusing on education of people is a better way to do it, though it isn't a quick fix.

@windinhishair ignorance and stupidity know no racial bounds.

Not being educated here in America is a choice. When every teen has access to google at lets face it. 99% do. Ignorance is a choice


I have told my kids. It is not the govts responcibility to educate you. It’s your responcibility to educate yourself. The schools only give you the tools to do that

As far as I know self reliance is also non racial

@St0ut I think you're missing the point. I agree with you that you have the responsibility to educate yourself (which includes taking advantage of what should be universal good education) and maintain your knowledge throughout life. That is non-racial. However, knowledge or literacy tests have historically been abused, and would no doubt be abused again to prevent minority voters from voting. Look at what happened when a single clause in the Voting Act of 1964 was struck down by the Supreme Court a few years ago. North Carolina passed new voter suppression laws within HOURS of the ruling, and many states followed. Any kind of test for voting eligibility will be used similarly.

@windinhishair I was hoping to do this in a non racialnbiased way. But since that can’t be done. And we can fix a culture.


Status quo it is.

@St0ut As I believe I said elsewhere in this post, it sounds good in theory, but given our history of abuse of similar approaches, I don't see how it can work. I think you have to get back to education, and that becomes more problematic over time, since people can easily live in bubbles where they only have access to information that supports their preconceived notions (on both sides, by the way). That is having a disproportionate impact on the nation at the moment, with no sign of abating.