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Imagine that an AR-15 was not used in the Santa Fe shooting

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Graylight · 51-55, F
When is this inane and distracting "the AR-15 isn't an assault weapon" going to end?

A bullet is still a bullet. A gun is still a gun. Disturbed or angry people with access to either are still a problem. And people keep dying.

Nope, the AR-15 was innocent this time, and kids still died. If there's anything that implies we need to start talking about [i]all[/i] firearms, this is it.
LadyBronte · 56-60, F
@Graylight So then we also need to get rid of knives. Anything that can be used for blunt force trauma. Autos. Anything that could be used to construct pipe bombs. All projectiles. Razor blades. Oh and dont forget fertilizer The list is endless. Get rid of everything that can be used for nefarious purposes and we'd be back to sleeping on the ground and using our fingers to eat. Guns aren't the issue. Mental illness, entitlement, lack of respect, lack of education and accountability are the problem. We've had guns in homes for fucking years and years and yeeeeaaaarrrrsss. If guns were the problem, surely this wouldn't be such a recent problem. I wish people would get rid of the inane "guns are the problem" mentality. People are the problem.
Graylight · 51-55, F
Anything can be used as a weapon, but a firearm is the only item intended for the sole purpose of destroying life. And few things are faster, deadlier or more efficient. The "knives kill people too" argument doesn't hold up. It requires very close proximity and intimacy to stab someone; knives don't accidentally jump out and stab; there's almost no collateral damage done with knives; using a knife takes thought and is generally less lethal, whereas the impulsive pull of a trigger can happen almost without thought.

Mental illness (good job buying into the hype) represents a fraction of firearms incidents. The mentally ill are generally no more violent than the average community member. Lack of respect? As in, "kids these days..."? You've got to be kidding.

I'm all for education, so long as it teaches the truth, like most 'responsible' gun owners [i]should[/i] use the safety and trigger locks & safes. Like a person increases his risk of death almost 8-fold by owning a gun. Like most card-carrying trained marksmen couldn't hit a barn door in 6 shots at 50 paces, or that many cops can't, either, in an active situation.

Very, very few people want a total ban on guns, but in this culture where literally everything is regulated, why the resistance to regulations that would minimize the violence done by average Americans? Because that's what we're talking about - not hordes of gun-toting MS-13 gang members, but each other.
LadyBronte · 56-60, F
So why are we only now having this problem? Why for all these years has nothing been an issue? Duh. And double duh. You have to be insane to believe those issues don't hold water. You obviously have never been in a situation where you have worked with the criminally insane, or where you need to protect yourself and/or your family or needed to hunt to put food on the table. Good luck trying to live in your shiny little world where no one ever has mental issues, everything is safe warm, and you never lack for the basics. 🙄