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Is the rage against SJWs a huge Straw-Man argument?


I've been on Youtube a lot recently and the whole place is awash with SJW hatred.In fact, there is so much anti-SJW hatred, that it outnumbers anything actually posted online by SJWs by about ten to one.

On Youtube, you have a wide and diverse range of anti-SJW and anti-feminist opinions, all of which say pretty much exactly the same thing. You get people who call themselves 'classical liberals,' including Dave Ruben and the Skeptic Community, all of which got bored hating on religion and seemed to decide that attacking SJWs was a more marketable past-time now. They like Jordan Peterson too and he is a Christian so work that one out. You also have the alt-rightish commentators and people like (the unpretentiously named) Sargon of Akad who is kind of in-between the two. If you want a video of a crazy student being 'triggered,' it is easier to find than a funny cat video.

I know there are some nutty students on University campuses and on Tumblr. No shit. They are young people on the internet. They also have minority views and have little power. So why the rage against them?

I just think its the tried a trusted political tactic of taking the worst example of a ridiculous thing a political opponent can do and then making it representative of the entire political left. Pick an angry student on a bad day and film them doing something crazy. Then say; "See! This is what 'the left' is like".

Its taken even further too because the 'Cultural Marxist' conspiracy theory seeks to explain how these young and excitable defenders of minority causes are seeking to take over the entire Western World. Jordan Peterson calls it 'Post-Modern Neo-Marxism' and this seems to be the same as 'Cultural Marxism'. I.E. A batshit crazy conspiracy which thinks Marxist theory was a theory of how to control people and that Post-Modernist theory was about control of culture.

Peterson may be an excellent psychologist but he should probably stick to that because he doesn't seem to understand Marxism, Post-Modernism or the word 'Neo'. The idea that a few French intellectuals in the 60s and 70s who represented a (never-dominant) faction within social-science academia could take over the world is ridiculous.

The west has been moving towards more progressive cultural values but a lot of that is due to the decline in Christianity and the more individualistic and atomised way that we live these days. Social diversity is a result of technology, travel and free-market capitalism. It's not because of some French dude in the 60s who nobody has read, nor is it down to a purple-haired 19-year-old who shouts a lot. None of that affects you at all, actually.

Most SJWs see themselves as defending the rights of minority groups, yet the entirety of the political right on Youtube thinks that [i]it [/i]is a besieged minority group which is denied free speech (it isn't, they are allowed to say all kinds of crap on Youtube and some are even NAZIs).

I know Youtube politics is silly but these people do have influence. Some have north of a million subscribers and a lot of people take them seriously. Really though, this shouldn't happen.
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GarryToppins · 36-40, M
Not really. These people do exist. Yes anti-SJW channels have come to outnumber them, but I think that is because the greater society isn't tolerant of SJWs. SJWs are largely college students and are among the most privileged group of people on earth. Never assume a society's trajectory is permanent.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@GarryToppins But why is it that this is a choice of topic for so many Youtube channels? I don't really care much what angry student groups do.
GarryToppins · 36-40, M
@Burnley123 Because it gets them subscribers. There are a lot of people in that space that don't agree with what their universities and fellow students are doing. It bothers them that they shut down free speech on campus and label everything they disagree with as hate. They see their world being turned upside down. The Mainstream ignores it because college is a bubble. So they reach out to channels online that see what they are seeing. SJWs overreact. they don't have any rationalizations or policy standpoints. They just scream. When there have been incidents on campuses across the US, Canada and the UK, things are played down and SJWs often find support in the media.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@GarryToppins I never see SJWs mentioned in the mainstream media and google search for SJW has all the top stuff as anti-SJW.

[quote] It bothers them that they shut down free speech on campus and label everything they disagree with as hate.[/quote]

Is that really true though? To critique someone properly, you need to deal with their arguments on their own terms rather than cherry-picked examples by opponents. Its hard to actually find actual SJW arguments because of all the noise.

It exists in a bubble and has little influence so I think my original point was correct.

If you are interested in what SJW's themselves have to say, one of the pinned posts in my profile is by a SJW and is talking about free speech and the left.
GarryToppins · 36-40, M
@Burnley123 SJWs don't have arguments. They have feelings.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@GarryToppins they do have arguments. Look at the video