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Graylight · 51-55, F
Who says they don't acknowledge they're breaking the law? Maybe a day's wage or safety from their own countrymen supersede what is a small US infraction.
Entering the country illegally is still breaking the law. The argument is just becoming a little close in resemblance to the "we throw out the Old Testament but we want to keep that gay ban going" issue.
Try this - in the course of your day, take notice of how many civil infractions occur to your knowledge. On the road, in the office, streaming a movie illegally, downloading music...
Funny how we let's so much slip by, but on this we want almost capital punishment.
Entering the country illegally is still breaking the law. The argument is just becoming a little close in resemblance to the "we throw out the Old Testament but we want to keep that gay ban going" issue.
Try this - in the course of your day, take notice of how many civil infractions occur to your knowledge. On the road, in the office, streaming a movie illegally, downloading music...
Funny how we let's so much slip by, but on this we want almost capital punishment.
Harley4Life · M
@Graylight what i am referring to is not the civil side of illegal immigration but the criminal side
Graylight · 51-55, F
Being in the US as an undocumented person may be illegal, but it's not a crime, any more than a speeding ticket is. It's a civil infraction.
[i]Entering[/i] the US illegally is a crime...a misdemeanor no different than trespassing in someone's yard.
That said, the vast majority of people entering illegal don't do so by simply running the border. They overstay US-issued visas. But while more than 54 million visitors checked in through the US last year, nearly 630,000 - more than 98.5 percent - departed before their admissions expired.
There are no hordes, there are no dangerous caravans, there are no ISIS cells flooding through the southern borders. Indeed, if terrorists are as smart as we give them credit for, they'll walk silently unnoticed through the northen border.
I recently saw footage of a Trump rally, and while there were some surprisingly sane and thoughtful people there, most everyone cited "locking the doors" and "stopping the [10-year low] immigration problem." Trump successfully pandered xenophobia and nationalism.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/22/visa-overstays-biggest-problem-illegal-immigration/
[i]Entering[/i] the US illegally is a crime...a misdemeanor no different than trespassing in someone's yard.
That said, the vast majority of people entering illegal don't do so by simply running the border. They overstay US-issued visas. But while more than 54 million visitors checked in through the US last year, nearly 630,000 - more than 98.5 percent - departed before their admissions expired.
There are no hordes, there are no dangerous caravans, there are no ISIS cells flooding through the southern borders. Indeed, if terrorists are as smart as we give them credit for, they'll walk silently unnoticed through the northen border.
I recently saw footage of a Trump rally, and while there were some surprisingly sane and thoughtful people there, most everyone cited "locking the doors" and "stopping the [10-year low] immigration problem." Trump successfully pandered xenophobia and nationalism.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/22/visa-overstays-biggest-problem-illegal-immigration/
JellOFromHellO · 36-40, M
@Graylight Very well explained. This is another thing I never understood why people refuse to accept. Illegal immigration happens mostly by people entering the US through proper check posts, with documentation, and then once their legal status expires, they choose not to leave. This can be verified by looking up the stats, as you have done here. Yet somehow people can't seem to let go of this idea that illegal immigrants are just 'sneaking in' somehow. It's a weirdly simplistic view of how the world works.
