Brexit

@suzie1960 Don't think that will happen. The eu will not want to loose british money

@bhatjc Nothing to do with the EU really. When the UK leaves, the people will lose the protection of the EU so we'll be at the mercy of the UK Government. :(

@suzie1960 Which is better then being at the mercy of the EU. Which the UK should never had joined.

@bhatjc That argument is a fallacy. The EU will demand tariff terms to equalise the trade. The finance industry have already established

@Robert The UK should demand it's money back from all the loans it helped to float for the other EU countries. Lets bring back colonialism

@bhatjc Workers' rights such as the Working Time Directive, Holidays, Minimum Wage and even basic human rights in the UK are thanks to the EU. It's almost certain the Conservative Government will attempt to scrap a lot of rights legislation as soon as it's able to.

@Robert If we want to trade with the EU we'll have to abide by EU regulations just like Norway but we shan't have any say in making those regulations.

LIke those eu rules will last. Most of those countries are already in default. Time for the brits to pick up their debits and toss the free loaders out.

@bhatjc May has already said she wants to withdraw from the ECJ - one of the organizations that safeguards our rights. Why do that if she intends to obey the rules?

@suzie1960 Their rules. Not your countries rules.

@suzie1960 I am sure there are laws/regulations we all dislike, but repealing them cannot physically happen, due to UK parliamentary time constraints. In fact, it looks like we will be committed to accepting more laws over any transition period. I would guess whoever is in power after Brexit will have to Cherry pick the order of any changes. May certainly does want to withdraw from ECJ ( I empathise on that), but as it is only one arm of the EU legal system, we shall have to see what any deal (if any) brings.

@bhatjc Maybe but they're better than the rules a right wing UK government would introduce left to its own devices.

@Robert There are suggestions that May is attempting to bring in an "Enabling Act", allowing her ministers to re-write law as they wish, without full Parliamentary scrutiny.

I can't see us getting a good deal from the EU when we leave. The problem with the UK government is that it won't negotiate, it just issues demands and expects others to dance to its tune. It's totally non-plussed when others simply refuse to.

@suzie1960 No argument with you there Suzie

@suzie1960 "Enabling Act"...omg how foolish...

@suzie1960 I think May might actually [i]want[/i] a no-deal scenario as it will suit the authoritarian agenda of the conservative government. Frankly, I trust the EU far more than conservatives as the EU are on the side of those who are less well-off and need protection. Our standard of living will fall considerably as prices rocket and, apparently, a leaked government document states that the UK needs to prepare for a shortage of food and medicines in the event of a no-deal scenario.

Brexit is a disaster for British people.

@fazer1k We're already seeing some of the milder effects of cutting ourselves off. There is now a desperate shortage of nurses as applications from other EU nationals have fallen by 90 something percent. Farmers near where I live are having difficulty recruiting land workers. In recent times, young people from Eastern European countries have spent the summer here working on the land. This year, local farmers are predicting that hundreds of tonnes of food will have to be left to rot in fields because they don't have the man power to harvest it.

Farage and his cronies said that foreigners will still be able to come here to work but only if we say they can. He naively presumed that they'd want to. Why would anyone want to apply to come here and wait for 6 months or more only to possibly be rejected? Fuck that, they can just jump on a 'plane and go to pick grapes in France or some other country where they'll be welcomed. A bit of a no brainer really.

May still has the Irish border problem to deal with. Sinn Fein has the answer but I doubt she likes that. [i]Tiochfaidh ar la[/i] as they say.

@fazer1k But look at most of the EU. they are bankrupt

@bhatjc Most of the EU is doing very well for themselves while the UK is rapidly going down the drain. Have you seen the state of UK high streets recently? The standard of living is a lot better in most EU countries.

@suzie1960 I think the state of UK high streets has more to do with online shopping than anything else.

@MartinII I would tend to agree that's a factor but it hasn't affected other European countries as badly.

@suzie1960 At least the brits are not rioting like other countries are.

@bhatjc ...yet. Wait until the food shortages start to bite and unemployment soars.

@bhatjc No more bankrupt than the UK and the UK will be far worse off financially when we leave. The economic benefits of EU membership are far greater than the annual cost to the UK.

Brexit has caused a right-wing uprising in the UK. Riots may well become an issue in my view - costs will rise along with unemployment, and food and medicine shortages are predicted.

@fazer1k ugh 😣😣😣