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If It Worked For The USSR Why Not The USA?

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Hey Americans! Since guns are such a bad idea why not just turn them in? Just turn them in! In Russia after the Communists defeated all armed resistance they made it mandatory to hand in weapons of any kind - even swords (what need for a Zorro in the People's Republic?) leaving only the army, KGB, Internal Security, Border Security and Police with guns ... and look how well that worked out! When the Government decided the Ukrainian peasants had too much grain and decided to take it from them all they had to defend themselves were pitchforks and shovels...so millions of Ukrainian peasants could be starved to death or deported to Siberia without the plans of the State interfered with.

So learn from the Soviet Union, Americans! Listen to your Leftist politicians and media speaking to you behind their protective walls of armed security ... line up NOW like good citizens and hand in your guns. Don't make us come and take them ... understood?

Government will take care of you. It promises.
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SW-User
The vast majority of people in the left aren't asking for all guns to be taken away, though o_o Some are, but they are hardly given attention because many Leftists think losing all guns are a bad idea, just like you do.
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@SW-User Well if I were a US citizen I would feel comforted to know you feel qualified to speak for what "the vast majority of people in the left" really think and that at 25 or less you are more in touch with what they feel than Obama, Cuomo and Feinstein whom they elected.
Snuffy1957 · 61-69, M
@SW-User I think it's a terrible idea!
SW-User
@Abrienda Cuomo also thinks it's a bad idea to repeal the 2nd amendment

http://freebeacon.com/issues/cnns-cuomo-no-one-calling-repeal-second-amendment/

Obama also thinks it's a bad idea to repeal the 2nd amendment after a shooting

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/05/obama-announces-gun-control-plans-i-believe-in-the-second-amendment.html

Feinstein never wanted to take away everyone's guns.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/oct/08/chris-cox/nras-chris-cox-falsely-says-dianne-feinstein-wante/

And yeah, a majority of people think it's a bad idea to take all guns away, including Leftists. All these people just want are stricter gun laws, but that doesn't mean taking away all guns. That'd be idiotic. I see both left-wing programs and right-wing programs. All left-wing programs I've seen haven't spoken about taking away all guns. That's why I can confidently say that most people don't like the idea of taking away all guns.
Snuffy1957 · 61-69, M
@SW-User more gun laws? If people who shoot other people cared about the law that wouldn't be shooting people in the first place as far as I know that's against the law itself!

If those same people did not have guns they would use knives or bombs or no telling what else..
We need stricter parenting mental health help not more damn useless gun laws!
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@Snuffy1957 The weapon of choice by Moslem gang members in Sweden is the hand grenade. I wonder if the problem could be solved if Sweden would only toughen up its laws against hand grenade ownership?
SW-User
@Sunny57
"If those same people did not have guns they would use knives or bombs"

That's an incorrect assumption to make, for many reasons. Yes, there are some who would totally use knives or bombs to kill, but there are many who wouldn't if they lost their guns. Why? Because all humans, including the both of you, work under a Reward vs Risk balance. We are more inclined to do any wrong behavior if the Reward is real high and/or the Risk is too low.

Simple example 1: You are more likely to cheat on a homework assignment at home, rather than in class.
Example 2: You are more likely to kill, if you have reason to believe you can get away freely than if you cannot.

With that said, to killers, the REWARD is the amount of people they kill and the RISK is their chances of getting caught. If killers lost their access to guns, they could very well turn to knives, as they are very easy to obtain... however... that would both INCREASE THE RISK and DECREASE THE REWARD. You cannot kill as many people with a knife than with a gun. If you stabbed someone in public, you'd have to start chasing after every person to stab more and that, of course, is a huge pain in the ass for the killer. Just with this fact, alone, is enough to deter any potential criminals from pursuing such actions. It wouldn't be worth the effort to them.

On the other hand, a gun is simple. You almost have complete control with killing others with a gun because it was MADE to kill others. It wasn't made to protect. A bulletproof vest was made to protect, a gun was made to kill, and so it is best at doing so. It will result in more kills than a knife, less risk from being caught by the police... Hell, you can fight back against the police with a gun lol. And even if someone were to kill many with a knife, the outcome compared to a gun massacre means you have essentially saved more people from harm in having the criminals do their killing through knives than with guns, cuz again guns > knives. It's why a majority of people use guns for their criminal acts, it's more reliable in every way.

All in all, guns > any other weapon. Even bombs. With some bombs, you have to plant secretly. And after it's secretly planted, you have to make sure no one becomes aware of it, while still being in an area where it can hurt many citizens. You can kill many with it, sure, but it's greatly dependent on location, scouting a layout, as well as secrecy. A gun... you just roll out and start shooting lol.

@Abrienda
What are you even trying to say lol.
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@SW-User I never said they wanted to repeal your 2nd Amendment. There are ways to make gun ownership in your country virtually impossible without doing that and you know it. So not only do you set up a false argument you are also being disingenuous which is a nice way of saying intellectually deceitful.
SW-User
@Abrienda Then what did you insinuate when you said "why not just turn them in" in your post and "you are more in touch with what they feel than Obama, Cuomo and Feinstein whom they elected" in your comment? Cuz if I agree with Obama, Cuomo, and Feinstein's point on gun control, then I don't see how you can joke I'm more in touch with citizens compared to them.

"There are ways to make gun ownership in your country virtually impossible without doing that and you know it" You are being very vague with that statement and assuming I know something when you have no reason to know if I know. I know this because I don't know what you think I know lmao. Sunny is being a lot more specific in his comment than you are :/

How was the argument above false?