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Capitalism or socialism?

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NoYou · 26-30, M
Capitalistic scum bag here and proud
Paloma · 26-30, F
@NoYou Wooo, I'm a capitalist too!
NoYou · 26-30, M
@Paloma MOAR MONIES FOR US :D
SW-User
@NoYou *less money for u. U people are workers! They spit upon you! They tax you while they cut their own taxes! Rebel!
NoYou · 26-30, M
lool who said im a worker? I run my own company i get tax cuts for days@SW-User
SW-User
@NoYou No wonder! We are coming for you! You best beleive that
NoYou · 26-30, M
@SW-User *shrug* if you want to kill entrepreneurship sure go ahead let see how far the west progresses without it
SW-User
@NoYou WRONG. We will eliminate oppression in the workplace. You can keep your money. We will free the people from economic slavery so they can create.
NoYou · 26-30, M
@SW-User it’s not that simple bro. Socialism calls for heavy taxation in order to have equal opportunities which reduces people’s want to start their own things. Why would they? It’s easier to get free stuff and just get by. Why work 90 hours+ a week like me and so many others do when half will be going away?
SW-User
@NoYou Except that i am not advocating that type of socialism. I advocate the abolition of the state. No taxes. Because there will be no state. People can work and should work together to create a better tommorrow! Not a richer state!
NoYou · 26-30, M
@SW-User that unfortunately is pretty close to anarchy if not the basis of it. Without proper goverment the corporations you so hate will quite literally take over. Gone will be the need to follow laws and the exploitation of workers will sky rocket. It all looks good on paper but paper doesn’t take into account the barbaric nature of humanity.
SW-User
@NoYou not in a world where workers control the means of production. Not in a world where all are equal. The state protects corporations, without the state who will protect them from the people? The barbaric nature of people is what we count on to stop corporations and explotation fam that is socialism!
NoYou · 26-30, M
@SW-User but workers control the means of production in capitalism too. If all workers techincally went on strike the entire world would collapse. All are not equal though. There’s people who take the risks and put forth the effort that others do not. Would you consider me an equal to another 22 year old who drinks and parties all weekend while I work and make something? Capitalism provides a platform to all. The only problem is people don’t read the rules or are too stupid to care for them. I guarantee you this, if you educate yourself, work hard and make the first move you will succeed in one way or another capitalism assured that more than any other system.
SW-User
@NoYou If the workers own the means of production why are they not being paid accordingly? Poverty is rising while the rich drown on their billions.

Yes. All men will be equal. To each according to his need and ability. If you are a great leader and entrepreneur in capitalism then u can be too in socialism. Socialism relies on merit. All will have opportunities. Something capitalism does not do. The poor drown
NoYou · 26-30, M
Have you seen the way most people spend money? I have friends who literally have $300 shoes and work at Whole Foods and I literally don’t even own $100 ones. People spend money on stuff that depreciates in value and gives them no long term value such as clothes, cars etc. nor do they want to do anything special for them to get paid a lot. where as the rich invest or they save up until they can invest. It’s quite simple as that. I wasn’t born rich. Hell I was born in by the slums in India it was through capitalism me and my family got here.
SW-User
@NoYou through socialism you wouldn't have been born in the slums at all. We are all equal. Socialism will give to him who needs and according to his ability to produce.

Capitalism must always have someone at the bottom. Otherwise its not capitalism. Someone must be oppressed and exploited. With socialism you would be free to create without the boundaries of money. You create for humanity and pleasure. Not money