is america more racist than it was during and before the civil rights movements
if so how did that happen?
26-30, M
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TexChik · F
@Dlrannie ok Brit ... please enlighten us with your vast knowledge of Trump and his racist acts . How does a British leftist presume to know [b][i]anything [/i][/b] about current American culture? But then you ask me when I put you to task . You are the one that replied with a faux sense of knowledge. My opinions and knowledge , seeing that I actually live here , couldn’t possibly compare to your CNN provided response ... 🙄. So ... im waiting ...???
TexChik · F
@Xuan12 to a lib , the truth is [b]always[/b]false when it’s damning to the lib narrative . Given that , how can you expect anyone to take you seriously or care to waste time Providing facts to people that will deny the sky is blue if it promotes their bs !!. And... if Libtards say I have a bad rep , then I’ve done a great job of dealing with you . 😁
Xuan12 · 31-35, M
@TexChik lol...you like looking like a lying ass. Okay. That's the kind of thing you would be proud of. It's also convenient that you don't care about pursuading people who think differently from you, because it gives you an excuse never to try. I don't blame you for not wanting to though. Like I said, you can't even tell when people are agreeing with you sometimes. XD Can't be bothered to understand what you read I guess. Honestly I wonder if you're on here drunk half the time.
Dlrannie · 31-35, F
@TexChik Why ask me to enlighten you - you've already said I couldn't possibly know anything about America and its culture. Yet again you adopt deflection tactics to avoid answering my question. Perhaps you should read my initial response and you will see I said nothing about Trump being racist merely that he hadn't done anything to improve racial harmony
CopperCicada · M
@Xuan12 We're clearly more racist now.
Trump should be the one honored on the memorial of Martin Luther King Jr, not some black guy.
[i]pfft[/i]
Trump should be the one honored on the memorial of Martin Luther King Jr, not some black guy.
[i]pfft[/i]
Xuan12 · 31-35, M
@TexChik Why do you tell such futile lies? Or perhaps you just don't understand English very well? [quote]It was at a very low ebb , then Obama stoked the fire[/quote]
There it is, the opinion you offered just moments ago, and which by your line of reasoning asserts that you are an expert.
There it is, the opinion you offered just moments ago, and which by your line of reasoning asserts that you are an expert.
TexChik · F
@Xuan12 ahh , obama inserted himself into the Trayvon Martin case and made supportive statements about a known common street thug . Presidents are not supposed to publicize opinions in active investigations , or send the DOJ and Eric Holder into facilitate the prosecution of a state murder trial... yet he did
He allowed Eric Holder to go in and take over police departments like the one in Ferguson Missouri and lord over the officers with threats of charges of discrimination and excessive use of force because the perps were always African American .
Obama and holder implemented the promise program . They couldn’t stop the crime rate of young black men but they could keep them from being arrested ... by paying local police departments that cooperated . That way they could claim they were responsible for keeping blacks out of jail. They had to ultimately include All races to avoid appearing racist .., but they did take credit for falsely lowering the Black crime rate .
Then in Baltimore... with the full attention of the obama DOJ , a black criminal just out of the hospital was arrested for selling drugs . He was injured and died during his arrest ... and they tried to publicslly prosecute the cops and the black mayor allowed the rioters ( many were at Ferguson) to have a path of destruction ... but when it all went south and an honest judge through out the case ... obama disappeared .
Then the war on cops , which the obama administration fanned into a flame , was anothe Black versus white dispute. Racism and racial violence spiked during the obama years . The left still try’s to push the white privilege narrative .., but at illegals and Hispanics now more than blacks . Those are the facts . They happened, they were reported on... so the denials start in 3-2-1...🙄
He allowed Eric Holder to go in and take over police departments like the one in Ferguson Missouri and lord over the officers with threats of charges of discrimination and excessive use of force because the perps were always African American .
Obama and holder implemented the promise program . They couldn’t stop the crime rate of young black men but they could keep them from being arrested ... by paying local police departments that cooperated . That way they could claim they were responsible for keeping blacks out of jail. They had to ultimately include All races to avoid appearing racist .., but they did take credit for falsely lowering the Black crime rate .
Then in Baltimore... with the full attention of the obama DOJ , a black criminal just out of the hospital was arrested for selling drugs . He was injured and died during his arrest ... and they tried to publicslly prosecute the cops and the black mayor allowed the rioters ( many were at Ferguson) to have a path of destruction ... but when it all went south and an honest judge through out the case ... obama disappeared .
Then the war on cops , which the obama administration fanned into a flame , was anothe Black versus white dispute. Racism and racial violence spiked during the obama years . The left still try’s to push the white privilege narrative .., but at illegals and Hispanics now more than blacks . Those are the facts . They happened, they were reported on... so the denials start in 3-2-1...🙄
Xuan12 · 31-35, M
[quote]Presidents are not supposed to publicize opinions in active investigations[/quote]
INTERESTING! HMMMM....I don't really need to say it, right?
Two things worth noting. A federal investigation into the Trayvon Martin case is not contraindicated by the Constitution. But whether or not that type of case (civil rights) should be pursued in this way is a different matter. In any case, Zimmerman acted foolishly. Calling 911 because he saw a black teenager, then following that teenager as he's trying to move away from Zimmerman, then ultimately getting involved in a situation where he killed him. I can see why people were highly suspicious of Zimmerman's motives. But in the end, no federal charges were filed.
And when the investigation into the events in Michael Brown were being conducted, the Justice department sided with the Officer. The following March, when 2 officers were ambushed by a shooter, Holder and Obama both came to the officers' side, and Jeffrey L. Williams, a young black male, was arrested and charged and convicted of that crime.
As far as the promise program goes, I don't even know what that is. But looking it up, it turns out it's a crime prevention program that was initially aimed at minorities. That is a little racist, but against the minorities. I don't think that's quite what you're accusing Obama of. But the program was opened up to all races, and unfortunately in order to meet the programs standards, people were incentivized to simply not report. Clearly not the intention of the program, but the result. Similar to No Child Left Behind, the intention didn't match the result.
As for the Freddie Gray case, I think that's what you're referring too, I can't quite pin down what your complaint is. Are you complaining that charges weren't brought against the police? Because they weren't. Not by the federal government anyway. The State brought some charges, but none of the officers were convicted, though some did face disciplinary action.
Then there's this war on cops you speak of. But in these examples given, the DOJ either sides with, or never charges the police. So I'm not sure what you're standing on here.
I also happen to remember the Henry Louis Gates controversy, in which a black professor was accusing a white cop of racial discrimination. They had lunch with Obama to talk it out, and afterward both men said they had a good opinion of one another.
I'm not trying to make Obama out to be a saint here, but my point is that these feelings of him being the source of recent racism just seem misplaced. Likewise, I don't think Trump is the source of it, nor that he's exceedingly racist...maybe a little bit in a casual way, but he doesn't strike me as a deep, engrained racist. I think the biggest problem that he has is in that respect is that racist groups, white supremacists in particular, are very vocally supportive of him, they seem to view him as some kind of return to whiteness.
In any case, I don't think these recent events are either of these men's fault, not in a direct sense anyway. The more important aspect of this is how they handle it.
INTERESTING! HMMMM....I don't really need to say it, right?
Two things worth noting. A federal investigation into the Trayvon Martin case is not contraindicated by the Constitution. But whether or not that type of case (civil rights) should be pursued in this way is a different matter. In any case, Zimmerman acted foolishly. Calling 911 because he saw a black teenager, then following that teenager as he's trying to move away from Zimmerman, then ultimately getting involved in a situation where he killed him. I can see why people were highly suspicious of Zimmerman's motives. But in the end, no federal charges were filed.
And when the investigation into the events in Michael Brown were being conducted, the Justice department sided with the Officer. The following March, when 2 officers were ambushed by a shooter, Holder and Obama both came to the officers' side, and Jeffrey L. Williams, a young black male, was arrested and charged and convicted of that crime.
As far as the promise program goes, I don't even know what that is. But looking it up, it turns out it's a crime prevention program that was initially aimed at minorities. That is a little racist, but against the minorities. I don't think that's quite what you're accusing Obama of. But the program was opened up to all races, and unfortunately in order to meet the programs standards, people were incentivized to simply not report. Clearly not the intention of the program, but the result. Similar to No Child Left Behind, the intention didn't match the result.
As for the Freddie Gray case, I think that's what you're referring too, I can't quite pin down what your complaint is. Are you complaining that charges weren't brought against the police? Because they weren't. Not by the federal government anyway. The State brought some charges, but none of the officers were convicted, though some did face disciplinary action.
Then there's this war on cops you speak of. But in these examples given, the DOJ either sides with, or never charges the police. So I'm not sure what you're standing on here.
I also happen to remember the Henry Louis Gates controversy, in which a black professor was accusing a white cop of racial discrimination. They had lunch with Obama to talk it out, and afterward both men said they had a good opinion of one another.
I'm not trying to make Obama out to be a saint here, but my point is that these feelings of him being the source of recent racism just seem misplaced. Likewise, I don't think Trump is the source of it, nor that he's exceedingly racist...maybe a little bit in a casual way, but he doesn't strike me as a deep, engrained racist. I think the biggest problem that he has is in that respect is that racist groups, white supremacists in particular, are very vocally supportive of him, they seem to view him as some kind of return to whiteness.
In any case, I don't think these recent events are either of these men's fault, not in a direct sense anyway. The more important aspect of this is how they handle it.
