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If guns were really the issue we would have already been experiencing this rampant nonsense 40+ years ago.. Just saying..

And yet it's only occurring NOW................ Which if guns hadn't been the problem all these years and incidents were always extremely isolated when in occurring then you really have to look at the bigger picture and ask. "What changed?"
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Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
Why do so many pro enthusiasts cite protection as their #1 reason for having them ?
Do you think that's a political thing or is law enforcement [i]so bad[/i] it's come to that ?
SerenitiesScars · 31-35, M
@Picklebobble2 Law enforcement is bad... You take away guns in a land where CRIMINALS are becoming MASS shooters.. And then it will REALLY become open season for them...

Right now it's a deterrent when a criminal has no idea whether a person owns a gun or not... Which is why they TARGET gun free zones such as SCHOOLS...

It's not that hard to understand really...

And again if guns were the TRUE issue this would have already been happening many years ago.. Which it hadn't..
Carissimi · 70-79, F
@Picklebobble2 Tyranny is coming. In fact, it’s halfway here, and this is the reason the Founding Fathers included the 2A. I don’t own a gun, never have. Truth be told, they scare me, but I support the 2A. We need it. If it gets much worse, I’d get myself trained and armed. Don’t like the thought of it, but I would if necessary.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@SerenitiesScars It [i]is[/i] really disturbing the regularity of school shootings. And schools are 'sitting ducks' ! I mean how [i]could[/i] you protect so many ?
But from a sociological perspective, why schools ?
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@Carissimi You feel 'under threat' in day to day living ?
Carissimi · 70-79, F
@Picklebobble2 Not yet, but if it gets as bad here as it is in Europe, then I would.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@SerenitiesScars [quote]a land where CRIMINALS are becoming MASS shooters[/quote]Ironically mass shooters tend to have clean criminal records.
[quote]Right now it's a deterrent when a criminal has no idea whether a person owns a gun or not... Which is why they TARGET gun free zones such as SCHOOLS... [/quote]
Most of them expect to die in the attack. They just look for something with reliable target density, like a concert, night club, school, etc.

Schools are generally chosen for personal reasons, as locations where they were somehow wronged.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Carissimi[quote]Not yet, but if it gets as bad here as it is in Europe, then I would.[/quote]
Lmao. I travel to Europe every year. By and large it's far safer than the US.
SerenitiesScars · 31-35, M
@QuixoticSoul No.. Shooting people doesn't make their record clean. They're a criminal because they just shot up a ton of people. How the fuck is that a clean record?
Carissimi · 70-79, F
@QuixoticSoul I disagree. Rape is up, acid attacks, terror attacks all up, and governments, with a few exceptions have become totalitarian. You now can go to prison for a tweet, or saying anything that goes against the narrative. You won’t see most of what goes on in MSM. People are feeling oppressed for telling it like it is.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
@QuixoticSoul How do you quote someone? Is that prime membership?
SerenitiesScars · 31-35, M
@Carissimi The little quotation tab above the where you're commenting.. It's the last tab to the right..
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@SerenitiesScars When you say that criminals are becoming mass shooters, it kind of implies that people were criminals before the shooting - as in, career criminals who decided to go out in a blaze of glory. But for most of those guys, the shooting is their first and last crime.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
[quote]like this?[/quote]@SerenitiesScars
Carissimi · 70-79, F
@QuixoticSoul No. Didn’t work. Still have to copy and paste.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Carissimi Seriously - my parents own a place in Europe, I'm there a lot, and I've been all over it up and down. By and large, it's a far safer place than America with lower incidence of rape and violence, and people are not feeling oppressed.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Carissimi Oh, I copy and paste.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
@QuixoticSoul UK, Sweden, and Germany, for sure, but I won’t argue about it.
So you just use quotations, and copy and paste? Okay. Now, I’m getting “pings.” Things have changed here since my last visit with “thought bubbles” and “pings.”
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Carissimi Germany is always my first stop, I tend to fly into Munich. It's a lovely country. Extremely orderly.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
@QuixoticSoul I lived there a long time ago. Long before Frau Merkel was in power.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Carissimi By and large German crime has hovered at roughly the same rates, with small increases and decreases. The high point was actually in the early 90s, probably due to the stress of integrating GDR. Merkel's tenure had relatively little effect, despite all the hoopla around migrant crime - which doesn't mean that the situation shouldn't be taken seriously.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
@QuixoticSoul So when all the women were groped, raped, and sexually assaulted on NYE, in Cologne, we shouldn’t take it seriously? When a grandmother is raped by a “refugee,” we shouldn’t take it seriously? When a migrant walks free after raping a 10-year old boy because the judge wasn’t sure if the CHILD had consented or not, we should not take it seriously? These are three of many crimes. You are either asleep or part of the propagandist machine.