Why Do Leftists Hate FACTS?

@SW-User You think the Nazi's beliefs in a master race were fact based...that the Khymer Rouge belief that anyone who wore GLASSES was by definition a counter-revolutionary and must be imprisoned or executed was fact based or that psychiatrists in the old Soviet Union stated as fact those who believe in God suffered something called "creeping psychosis" and should be hospitalized?

You believe the Nazi's were NOT living in a fantasy world and those who opposed their as they maintained fact based beliefs were not more intelligent? Really? How about those who rejected the "fact" that blacks were racally inferior to whites so slavery was their natural state? They were not of superior intelligence to those who did...really? Oris I all just "relative"?

You snobbishly tried to come off as morally superior to those who do not agree wih you but are just a boy lacking the moral strength to reach quaified judgements about anything and so spend endless hours contemplaing her own navels.

Read a few more books,read a lot more history, and get back to us later

"Read a few more books,read a lot more history, and get back to us later".

I haven't even replied and you're already telling me to "read a lot more history and get back" to you later? I don't mean for this to come off as insulting, but you appear to be pretty close-minded :/ I would always welcome you to say your point. That's dialogue. How can you expect someone else to listen to your point when you don't bother listening to their's? If your idea of dialogue is to simply make your point and silence others... I'm sorry, then all you'll be doing is furthering the divide in the country. If you want to bring sides together, speak to them, don't make your point and silence them :/ Expecting to be given respect without giving it first is entitlement, no?

As for everything you said above, of course I don't believe in all that. Nazi beliefs weren't fact based, but that doesn't mean that they also BELIEVED it wasn't fact-based. Here's an example: To many, God is fact. He CAN be proven to some. But for others, he cannot. By definition, what is fact SHOULD be what can or cannot be proven. And I get it, you can't prove that the Nazis are a master race. We are in agreement that they aren't. Nonetheless, they may think differently and believe that it was fact. The same logic applies to everything else you stated below.

But on another note, you are equating Leftists to Nazis. Incorrect equation. Nazis might be Leftists, but that doesn't mean Leftists are Nazis. If this is a bit hard to understand, I'll use math as an example: All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares. Equating Leftist ideology to be equated to Nazi ideology is not only discriminating to all Leftists who aren't Nazi's, but also appears to show a lack of understanding for the other side. And so, I'll end this comment with this: I am not saying I am right in my political stance. I'm not saying that, at all. But from what I've gathered, you understand nothing about the way I think. And you cannot solve a problem without first understanding the problem. To you, Leftists are a problem. As it follows logically, you cannot solve Leftist ideology if you cannot understand it. We may continue our discussion here, but my recommendation for you would be to listen to Leftists, more often. You don't have to agree with them, but just listen to them. Cuz from the sound of what you said earlier, I don't believe you give Leftists much of a chance to make their point :/

@SW-User Oh sweetheart..."I don't believe you give Leftists much of a chance to make their point."?Ahhh...you mean if I disagree with you I am not giving "Leftists much of a chance to make their point"? You see me deleting your posts? And it is rich hearing you play he victim card when it is Leftists who ROUTINELY use violence to prevent conservatives from "making their point".

But please...you were not interested in "dialogue" for if you had you would not have come off so smug and falsely superior. Anyway "dialogue" with Leftists really means "You listen to everything I have to say then I'll give you the chance to agree with me." You just proved it...because I don't agree I am not letting you make your point/have your way. Sounds like a 5 year old having a tantrum.

I did not equate Nazis with Leftists anymore than I did slaveholders in 19th century USA with Leftists. However no one seriously considers the Nazi's as "right-wing", while of course you know the word NAZI is an acronym for National SOCIALIST etc., unless you are also going to claim you know more about what the Nazi's believed than they did when hey used it?

So let's try again... were people who refuted Nazi ideology and their "facts" (among whom was Albert Einstein)intellectually superior to the Nazis? Was it correct to say the Nazi's were living in a "fantasy world" or not?

As you pompously wrote:

"It is unfortunate that people from both sides think the other one is knowingly living in a fantasy world.That mindset makes people believe they have superior intelligence than another. Leftists don't hate facts. No one does."

I will understand if you refuse to answer for a second time because to do so must reveal your argument as both morally and intellectually bankrupt. Good luck!

"Please... you were not interested in "dialogue" for if you had you would not have come off so smug and falsely superior" You are jumping to conclusions based on your own interpretation, which may very well be incorrect :| I'm not saying it is, I'm just saying you have no facts to back up that thought, cuz it's just an opinion :/

"Anyway 'dialogue' with Leftists really means 'You listen to everything I have to say then I will give you the chance to agree with it.'" Based on what evidence? Or have you spoken to every Leftist in the world to confirm that they all think this way? :/

"... claiming the moral and intellectual high ground for yourself I see you are incapable of replying to my three examples of people and times when people DID indeed claim as facts things which were ridiculous."

First, I forgot to answer that point when writing my response. My bad lol. It was "human error", not "being incapable of proving a point" :P And what do you mean by I'm "Claiming the moral and intellectual high ground?" I only stated my opinion. I may very well be wrong. Why do you believe I'm putting myself on a pedestal? I admitted in my first comment that I may very well be wrong, politically. Does that make me sound like an intellectual? I would hope not. I am not, in any way, making myself to be superior, but you are interpreting my response to be that way. I do not have myself on a pedestal, so please do not think that I do. That is a false interpretation.

Secondly, to answer the 3 examples you stated before, I believe you misinterpreted my point again. I said "That MINDSET makes people believe they have superior intelligence than another." That doesn't deny the fact that people may have superior intelligence to another, but it begs the question on THEIR REASON for believing they have superior intelligence. Or in other words, if you believe you are intellectually superior because another party is knowingly living in a fantasy, then that is incorrect because no one would ever live a life knowing that they are wrong. Who goes around life believing, "I know I'm wrong about everything, gain absolutely nothing from being wrong about it all, but will continue living incorrectly"?! It makes no sense. No one thinks that way. It doesn't have even 1% of rational thought to back it up. It's not that I deny superior minds, but I reject the REASON for why we believe we are superior intellectually compared to another. And so, to answer the 3 examples you've stated, I'm in complete agreement to them all, but that's because we are in agreement for THE REASON for why we believe they were of superior intelligence.

AND THAT is how you create dialogue lol. Look at the both of us! Agreeing with all these scenarios, but through different means! :P

"I did not equate Nazis with Leftists unless you think I am also equating slaveholders in 19th century USA with Leftists, or are you?" I may have misinterpreted that. If so, I apologize. See?! I can admit to being wrong, too! :P But if I were to be honest, I don't see the point you're trying to make in your second paragraph. What're you trying to say and how does that relate to today?

"Was it correct to say the Nazi's were living in a "fantasy world" or not? As you pompously wrote: 'It is unfortunate that people from both sides think the other one is knowingly living in a fantasy world.That mindset makes people believe they have superior intelligence than another. Leftists don't hate facts. No one does.'"

Please don't say "pompously" about me. Get me off your pedestal! lol. You sound like you're making me out to be a narcissist or something. *Grabs pedestal, throws it out the window* No more "pompous" or "moral high ground" talk, please :/ I can't express any further how I can be wrong on so many levels, but am only looking for dialogue. A pompous, morally sound, intellectual would not admit to possibly being wrong on everything lol.

As for the quote above, I think you missed the point because I don't disagree with the fact that Nazi's were living in a fantasy world. I never denied people living in a fantasy world, I denied people KNOWINGLY living in a fantasy world. One is intentional, the other may be unintentional. You may believe that Leftists are living in a fantasy world unintentionally, if you want. That's a fair opinion to have. But to believe that they are KNOWINGLY living in a fantasy world, is just insane because no one would think that way. It is beyond stupidity. It's 0% rational thought. Absolutely nothing good comes out of it. And if anyone would believe that is how Leftists think, then I would tell them again, if you cannot understand the problem, you can never hope to solve it.

And maybe that's why Leftists are still a problem, because people don't try to understand us. To be fair though, I believe the left doesn't listen to the right, either. I consider both sides to be equals in the way they behave. Politicians just getting us to hate on one another, while they get money for their corruption. Because honestly, if everyone came together to just talk and find solutions, we would have found one, by now, for just about anything and everything political. But instead there are arguments :/ And in arguments people don't care about who's right, but rather who wins. And when both sides only care about who wins in an argument, ultimately, no one will :(

We need to start focusing on certain issues, cuz these answers are getting way too long, haha. We can start with your 2nd paragraph, as I believe we essentially agree with all examples, you've stated, but I'm left a bit confused about that paragraph.

@SW-User Not interested in putting you "on a pedestal". Nor do I need to...you put yourself on one long before I met you.

Not interested in pursuing this conversation with you any longer but will let your next reply go without response so you can feel you had "the last word" which I can tell is important for you especially at your age.

I thank you for the last words, I guess? Anyways, I do hope we can continue speaking, if you are up for it. We can speak whenever you'd like :) We even found some common ground, so I'm not exactly sure why you don't seem to acknowledge that. But anyways, these are my last words:

Is your intention to create dialogue with those you disagree with, with hope of finding common ground or to simply prove your point?

Think about that as you walk away from that very same dialogue :/ Because if your actions reflect your thoughts, then it would appear you think the latter. I can only hope you can prove me wrong by joining me in conversation again. Let us learn from each other, if you'd like :)

@Abrienda Drink up girl 🥂

@bhatjc Avec vous...toujours!

@Abrienda merci douce dame. Parfois, c'est juste de ne pas penser dur. Mais détends-toi et bois

@bhatjc Certainement vrai...mais seulement si la boisson est Cognac, de preference de l'Armenie!

@Abrienda mais bien sûr

@Abrienda bonne nuit