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How could such a tragedy happen after the last time that Congress did absolutely nothing to prevent it ?

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If the coach who gave his life would have been armed everything would be fine. It's not the guns. It's a sick culture and a sick society. Otherwise there would have been school shootings in the 19th century. Things were different when everyone had guns long ago. They had a moral compass then, and discipline.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@puck61 The problem wasn't that the coach wasn't armed. If it was, and more guns is the solution, why don't we just give guns to all the kids? The little ones can have cute little pistols in candy colors. If kids are all armed, then they can kill someone who uses theirs improperly.

I do agree it is a sick society and a sick culture. Apparently, we love our guns more than we love our children. Sad to say, but it seems to be true.

When people all had guns, they didn't have AR-15s and other weapons capable of mass murder, and in fact designed for mass murder. So in that respect, it IS the guns.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@puck61 By the way, do you know the deadliest school massacre in history? it wasn't Columbine. It wasn't Virginia Tech. It wasn't what happened yesterday. It occurred in Bath, a rural Michigan town, in [b]1927[/b]. A local school board member and electrician rigged up the local school with hundreds of pounds of explosives, which he detonated while school was in session. A total of 44 people died, including 38 students. And only half the explosives went off, so the death toll could easily have exceeded 100. So that past moral compass doesn't always point true, even when our ancestors were well armed.
@windinhishair No. Predictably, we disagree. I am among those who believe that it is a mental health issue, not a gun issue. We 'should ' be able to have fully automatic weapons and not have tragedies like this. Semi automatic assault rifles or rocket launchers, are only as dangerous as the people that own them. Yes on stricter background checks, but gun control should be limited to firing at the bottom of your breath, and allowing for windage.
@windinhishair That is too much of a stretch my friend. It doesn't hold any water at all for me.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@puck61 Mental health obviously plays a role, but is only part of the solution. If someone is armed with a knife, they are not going to be able to kill dozens of people. Even someone armed with a handgun will have great difficulty killing dozens. It is only with the advent of weapons of mass killing that we, predictably, have multiple and ongoing incidents where so many can be killed so easily.

No one needs to be armed with assault weapons. They should be banned as they were in the 1990s.
@windinhishair I really don't care. I don't need a semi automatic myself. Not yet anyway......🙄
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@puck61 That is your right not to care about mass killings.

Hopefully you won't see the need for an assault weapon, even when trump is removed from office. 😉
@windinhishair Oh it was a stab in the gut. Of course you know god damned good and well what I was saying. I don't care about assault weapons, and I don't think the way leftist do. I am as baffled by their logic as they seem to be baffled by mine.

Dream on! I can't even take that 'parting shot' seriously at all! 😉
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@puck61 I think we can agree that it was an horrific incident that has become all too common. So what is the solution? It can't be more guns. Why can't we have universal gun checks? Outlawing bump stocks? Mandating smaller magazines? Grandfathering in existing gun owners and outlawing future sales of assault weapons? Wouldn't preventing just one future mass killing be worth it?

There has to be some common ground for people like you and I on either side of the issue.
@windinhishair Probably not. Stricter background checks and more mental health awareness is about as far as I can go on this. A gun is just tool or a toy. It can do nothing on it's own.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@puck61 I am convinced that unless and until we ban assault weapons again, the killings of children and others will go on and on and on and on and on and on.......

A nuclear weapon is also a tool and can do nothing on its own.

Universal background checks would be a start. We can agree on that.