Trump haters and Russia conspiracy loons:

Your entire world is about to come crashing down.
A tipping point has been reached with released, proven information. Fusion GPS has been shown to have colluded with Hillary, the DNC and the Russians to produce the fake Trump dossier, for which Hillary and the DNC paid millions of dollars of YOUR donations. They took this fabrication to the Obozo Justice Dept. and FBI to secure a fraudulent FISA warrant to surveil candidate Trump. This is the same violation of law that cost Nixon the presidency.
None of this is partisan political opinion. It's all proven, on the record fact.
Trump, knowing the Russia allegations against him were fake has been sitting back allowing all the opposition players to fully entangle themselves in lies and cover-ups, and starting next Monday it's all going to start to unravel. This is much bigger than Watergate. Most of you know nothing about that event, but you should study up. Many of Nixon's aids went to prison and the same thing is going to happen to Obozo's lackies. Hopefully Hillary as well.

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katielass · F

oblamo belongs in prison as well. Just as the buck stopped with Nixon, it should stop with oblamo. He is just as guilty as anyone.

anythingoes477 · M

@katielass Ya think you could list the crimes he is charged with?? Maybe....just one??? I know it's not like you guys have not been hellbent to find something---anything--to charge him with--so there must be something. Right? So tell us what charges does he have against him to be tried on? Wearing a tan suit?? Not being a sideshow EVERYDAY since he took office? lol lol Go ahead---list those charges hes guilty of. We'll wait..........

anythingoes477 · M

@katielass Still getting that list of charges together????

katielass · F

@anythingoes477 How about using documents he knew were false to get a warrant to wiretap a political candidate of the opposing party? That's exactly what he did or can't you read the post? I wont bother trying to explain it to you, it's surely above our level of comprehension, based on my other dealings with you. You just go back to miss madcow and continue getting your daily dose of brainwashing. We'll handle the big stuff, don't worry your little head.

anythingoes477 · M

@katielass You're a gas. The most amusing person I've spoken to in a while. Mind totally adrift--but amusing. Thanks for that. I know you love 'facts" and reading so you're gonna like this. I know all of this-those in the IC do--- but you evidently don't. One does NOT get a federal warrant to get a wiretap using false information. The entire bundle of why one is wanted goes thru the legal process to see if one is warranted---and why the one asking thinks it is. There has to be AMPLE evidence of a crime before one is given. Read this. You're the smart one here so this should be a breeze. Learn something.

https://security.cs.georgetown.edu/~msherr/papers/accountable-wiretapping.pdf

Pherick · 41-45, M

@anythingoes477 I hate that Katielass there has me blocked, these one-sided conversations are amazing, and I am dying to know what she is saying :)

katielass · F

@anythingoes477 No that is not true dear. The FISA court is different. Read up on it. I'm going to make you do your homework if you want to talk to me. I'm not doing all the work and I'm not going to bother with someone who doesn't know the basics. read up on the FISA courts and learn when they started and how they are different from the "legal process".

anythingoes477 · M

@katielass The "process" is no different whatsover. Evidence is provided--a wiretap is requested--counceil makes the case--the judge and court makes a decision--yes or no. Not rocket science. You do not have devine understanding that only you are privvy too. The name of the court is the only different. The due process part is exactly the same.

katielass · F

@anythingoes477 The difference is they do not require reasonable cause. Pretty much all they have to do is CLAIM this American is colluding with a foreigner against the United States. It is very different from the regular process. That's why it exists, because it's DIFFERENT. Did you not pay attention when this was passed after 9/11? The purpose was to make it EASIER to get a warrant and to get one FASTER for "national security". It pretty much ignores the 4th amendment but it is supposed to be used ONLY for national security cases where the government needs to find out if a suspect is plotting an attack. It was not intended to be used for political purposes. In a regular court documents would have to be provided to support probable cause. In the case of the FISA court the WORD of the applicant is all that is required.

anythingoes477 · M

@katielass But that "cause" is automatic. ANY calls made from a U.S. phone--wire or cell is automatically intercepted if it goes to a hostile nation. The recording is done automatically. When it is---proof exists that a person in the U.S. is communicating for some r4eason with a hostile nation. After 9/11 that was a provision of Homeland Security rules changes. In fact it was happening for years prior. When that bell goes off-----it draws attention. FISA understands one contact has to be made--to make amnyone aware more might be. The tap they OK is to catch the following calls. You are createing a difference without a distinction. Word game.

katielass · F

@anythingoes477 We're not talking about that. Read up on it before you try discussing it.