Coastal latte liberals are real unelectable minority

I enjoy a latte now and again however not an eight dollar one made at breakneck speed and served at a free WiFi place. No disrespect to the beverage which was simply used in the above context as one of the characteristics of the coastal elites. @CopperCicada

@jackjjackson I'm not putting it on you. It's a thing of its own. Even in Wiki. To me it's sort of like how Trump supporters are glossed in some circles as NASCAR watching. Sort of funny, sort of weird.

True. Adding latte slurping at Starbucks to the characteristics of the coastal liberal limosine elite is probably done for humor as is limosine. The shrinking of far left liberals to thr northeast coast and the west coast is real and a worsening problem for them. It IS somewhat ironic that they are the portion of the population whose taxes are likely to increase. @CopperCicada

@jackjjackson More like proof that taxes are being used as a partisan, divisive weapon. Same with rolling back the Obama era marijuana guidelines. BTW, WiFi at Starbucks is not policy restrained. It's open for all.

Lower rates and limits on deductions apply to all. @Northwest

@jackjjackson No they don't. This is why they are limits and deductions. If your real estate taxes are $9K per year, they don't apply to you.

The rules apply to all whether or not one qualifies or not varies. If state and local income taxes are added to the $9K then the former deductibility of the amount over $10K is lost. The lower rate schedule applies to all, what bracket varies by individual. The loss or personal exemptions for those with children is offset by increased child care credits. More than likely those with higher incomes and lots of deductions will now pay higher taxes despite the lower rate schedule. All on a case by case basis nationwide. @Northwest

@jackjjackson Too long of a speech, does not affect what I said. The fact is, that the deductions only kick in, once certain conditions are met, and the conditions do NOT apply to all.

Semantics we’ve beaten this poor dead horse enough already lol. @Northwest

In twenty or thirty years we will find out whether changes to state marijuana laws and changes to enforcement of existing law and the seesawing of changes of federal marijuana laws and how it all affects dwi/dui’s and many other things work out. There isn’t enough data. Based on alcohol data there are good reasons to restrict it however like marijuana the cost of enforcement may exceed the benefit while more serious offenses go unenforced due to lack of funding. I for sure don’t pretend to have the answers. What I don’t understand is how a state or city take CA for example may elect to be a “sanctuary” state (a term undefined by meaningful Law) and choose not to enforce existing laws. Imagine if a person could become a “sanctuary” person and be law exempt?


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@jackjjackson A sanctuary state, means about the same as it did 160 years ago, when they sheltered slaves.

As to enforcement $s taken away from other more pressing issues, that's not true. What pays for alcohol enforcement, is the mega taxes added to the price of alcohol, and you have leftovers for other stuff.

Society has never been able to control demand, through restriction of supply, so it tries to "cope". I was listening to Governor Inslee's interview yesterday. He said that while it's true that our state generated 100s of $Ms in tax revenue from Marijuana sales, the costs of enforcing the laws, regulations, etc. does not make it very profitable for the state, so it's about giving the public what they want (the proposition passed by 71% of the vote), while insuring a reasonable level of public safety.

The “slave” analogy is a pretty good one. It was more of a personal and church sponsored thing as well as underground hence the railroad term. Thr sanctuary state city thing nationwide is more “in your face” I suppose. I wonder if it will morph into a States rights issue.

Remember the drug free school zone signs? I always wondered why they were necessary since I naively thought everywhere was supposed to be drug free so the signs tacitly implied that drugs were just fine at least in some undefined places outside of the school zones.

Hopefully in legal recreational marijuana states the “costs”of legalization will be lessened so that there will be tax revenue. Most states have budget balancing not to mention unfunded pension liability issues. Selling state owned utilities and toll roads are short sighted nonsolutions.

The driving while under the influence of Medical marijuana resulting in a young child being killed case is getting a lot of traction and the detractors are getting away with ignoring the fact that existing driving under the influence laws cover that situation if enforced. Combine that with the issue of gun ownership by medical marijuana users furthers confuses things. For example prescription Vicodin snd Oxy users are allowed to own guns and no one questions that.

You are correct that demand is the key when it comes to drugs and alcohol. Years of trying to regulate the supply have waged a lot of money. Punishment for use has been a dismal failure and waste of money. That is only helping the privatized prison industry. Educating people regarding the proper use of legal drugs and alcohol seems to escape the attention of our lawmakers. @Northwest

@jackjjackson Partially why I agreed with President Obama's statement that Marijuana is no different from alcohol, and that we should leave it up to the states. Driving under the influence is driving under the influence, whether it's alcohol or marijuana.

Doing the same thing over and over, under the same set of circumstances, will produce the same results. Someone should remind Sessions of that.

Sessions could lose his job over this. He is going against a ton of public opinion. Like 70%. Not something that should be under Federal control. Maybe this is his way out? @Northwest