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Northwest · M
If you're talking about the Embassy, then that's the easy issue. The real problematic issue, is the rest of the "peace" plan. Highlights:
1. West Bank settlements get expanded and officially recognized.
2. The PA is offered a deal, by the US, Saudi Arabia, and the GCC countries, to accept a boatload of cash, in return for a swiss cheese country, where citizens who leave, are not allowed to come back, no one if allowed to emigrate into the PA, and those with historical claims are not allowed to come in. Over an extended period of time, this will eliminate Palestinians from their Swiss cheese country.
3. The PA will not be allowed to have an army, airport, ports of exist/entry. It's all under Israeli control.
The Saudis have been trying to move some pieces around, to clear the deck for this plan. The arrest of all those princes/business people, the forced resignation of Lebanon's PM, the "accidental" deaths of several high ranking military officials (and a contender to the throne, that same night), etc.
This will be a disaster, because it's not going to put an end to the underlying conditions that continue to fuel extremism. Abbas is not going to accept this, and neither is the Palestinian street.
Trump has to keep his right-wing Evangelical and right-wing Jewish backers happy, and they don't give a rat's ass about the people they will be hurting.
1. West Bank settlements get expanded and officially recognized.
2. The PA is offered a deal, by the US, Saudi Arabia, and the GCC countries, to accept a boatload of cash, in return for a swiss cheese country, where citizens who leave, are not allowed to come back, no one if allowed to emigrate into the PA, and those with historical claims are not allowed to come in. Over an extended period of time, this will eliminate Palestinians from their Swiss cheese country.
3. The PA will not be allowed to have an army, airport, ports of exist/entry. It's all under Israeli control.
The Saudis have been trying to move some pieces around, to clear the deck for this plan. The arrest of all those princes/business people, the forced resignation of Lebanon's PM, the "accidental" deaths of several high ranking military officials (and a contender to the throne, that same night), etc.
This will be a disaster, because it's not going to put an end to the underlying conditions that continue to fuel extremism. Abbas is not going to accept this, and neither is the Palestinian street.
Trump has to keep his right-wing Evangelical and right-wing Jewish backers happy, and they don't give a rat's ass about the people they will be hurting.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Northwest The very notion of a two-state solution has been little more than a fantasy for a long time now. The Israelis have said it will never be allowed to happen and that's all you need to know.
If Trump thinks SA are going to be enamoured by this move then he is very much mistaken. No matter what machinations the two young princes ( Salman and Kushner) have concocted this will not be tolerated more widely. They may believe they have some understanding with US/Israel but they are still Arabs first. It's Just one more foreign policy disaster to add to an already impressive list for Prince Mohammad bin Salman.(Qatar , Yemen , Lebanon.) This is what happens when neophytes are left to their own devices.
It will be an unmitigated disaster (like most everything that idiot in the WH touches)and is entirely against America's own self-interest.
And you're right , the only people this will please are those on the extremes in both the US and Israel. And not forgetting of course the real beneficiary of this crass decision , Trump's old pal Bibi Netanyahu. Trump Tower Tel-Aviv anyone ?
If Trump thinks SA are going to be enamoured by this move then he is very much mistaken. No matter what machinations the two young princes ( Salman and Kushner) have concocted this will not be tolerated more widely. They may believe they have some understanding with US/Israel but they are still Arabs first. It's Just one more foreign policy disaster to add to an already impressive list for Prince Mohammad bin Salman.(Qatar , Yemen , Lebanon.) This is what happens when neophytes are left to their own devices.
It will be an unmitigated disaster (like most everything that idiot in the WH touches)and is entirely against America's own self-interest.
And you're right , the only people this will please are those on the extremes in both the US and Israel. And not forgetting of course the real beneficiary of this crass decision , Trump's old pal Bibi Netanyahu. Trump Tower Tel-Aviv anyone ?
Northwest · M
@RodionRomanovitch Yes, I believe Kushner and MBS are in for a big surprise. The old Middle Eastern math no longer works in post Arab Spring. The French Le Monde did a great piece on the MBS boomerang shot, following the Hariri fiasco.
King Salman is going to be forced to publicly reject this move, Kind Abdallah, and President for life Sissi will do the same. Of course this is music to Netanyahu's ears. If Trump, in his naïve state of mind, believes that he can check off one more item, off his list of "accomplishments", but this one will have as deep impact.
About 60% of Israelis disapprove of Netanyahu, but ironically, the illegal immigrants, who get automatic citizenship, continue to keep him in place, thanks to the Israeli system of coalitions, that keep someone with less than a majority, in the office of the Prime Minister. Another reason Bibi wants to keep the settlements going.
King Salman is going to be forced to publicly reject this move, Kind Abdallah, and President for life Sissi will do the same. Of course this is music to Netanyahu's ears. If Trump, in his naïve state of mind, believes that he can check off one more item, off his list of "accomplishments", but this one will have as deep impact.
About 60% of Israelis disapprove of Netanyahu, but ironically, the illegal immigrants, who get automatic citizenship, continue to keep him in place, thanks to the Israeli system of coalitions, that keep someone with less than a majority, in the office of the Prime Minister. Another reason Bibi wants to keep the settlements going.