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Loretta78 · 46-50, F
What the hell has the climate change to do with Islam?? 🤔🤔
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Karmalives · 56-60, M
@Loretta78 👍
Loretta78 · 46-50, F
@Karmalives Well! Some terrorist attacks come just like a hurricane! 😆🤣
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@Loretta78 Nothing ..... apart from the fact that he wants to use both things to beat the left with.
Loretta78 · 46-50, F
@LegendofPeza It seems so. 🙄
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@Cierzo On Friday, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency, Scott Pruitt, declared that it was not appropriate to discuss the issue of climate change in the midst of a major set of hurricanes hitting the United States.
Environmentalist and some lawmakers scoffed at the logic, equating it to a government official declaring counter-terrorism strategy taboo in the aftermath of a terrorism attack.
Environmentalist and some lawmakers scoffed at the logic, equating it to a government official declaring counter-terrorism strategy taboo in the aftermath of a terrorism attack.
Cierzo · M
@LegendofPeza When a natural disaster or a terrorist attack happens, it is not the time to talk about climate change or counter-terrorism. It is opportunistic in both cases. It is time to care about victims.
I never agreed to talk about how and why did a terrorist attack when the blood of the victims is still hot.
The problem with the left, and the reason why I call leftist hypocrites is that they believe climate change is to be blamed 100% for hurricanes, and they jump to bash those skeptical about it, but on the other hand when there is an attack and someone just blame Islam, they jump.
It is the former I criticise, not the latter.
I never agreed to talk about how and why did a terrorist attack when the blood of the victims is still hot.
The problem with the left, and the reason why I call leftist hypocrites is that they believe climate change is to be blamed 100% for hurricanes, and they jump to bash those skeptical about it, but on the other hand when there is an attack and someone just blame Islam, they jump.
It is the former I criticise, not the latter.
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@Cierzo "they believe climate change is to be blamed 100% for hurricanes' ..... no they don't , they believe (rightly) it accounts for an increase in frequency and intensity.
"when there is an attack and someone just blame Islam, they jump." ...... some might but the vast majority have no problem whatsoever in connecting terrorist acts with the islamic religion. I certainly don't.
"when there is an attack and someone just blame Islam, they jump." ...... some might but the vast majority have no problem whatsoever in connecting terrorist acts with the islamic religion. I certainly don't.
Northwest · M
@Cierzo
and what left would that be? Left of Trump? Left of Macron? Left of Marx? Left of Franco? Left of Queen Elizabeth.
The problem with your sweeping statement, is that it's too sweeping.
Really? Who said that? Would that be "the left", whatever that is?
Logic dictates that if Islam, as a religion, is to be blamed for terrorism, then every Muslim is a terrorist, or that terrorism and Islam are boned in a unique and exclusive relationship. This is no more true than saying that the Catholic Church is responsible for Timothy McVeigh's bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City.
The problem with the left
and what left would that be? Left of Trump? Left of Macron? Left of Marx? Left of Franco? Left of Queen Elizabeth.
The problem with your sweeping statement, is that it's too sweeping.
and the reason why I call leftist hypocrites is that they believe climate change is to be blamed 100% for hurricanes
Really? Who said that? Would that be "the left", whatever that is?
but on the other hand when there is an attack and someone just blame Islam, they jump.
Logic dictates that if Islam, as a religion, is to be blamed for terrorism, then every Muslim is a terrorist, or that terrorism and Islam are boned in a unique and exclusive relationship. This is no more true than saying that the Catholic Church is responsible for Timothy McVeigh's bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City.
Cierzo · M
@Northwest Left of Trump is what I was thinking of. I know those labels are too sweeping, but how can we talk without them?
I used Islam as an example to compare. They criticise (and are right to do it) those who blame Islam 100% for terrorism, but do the same with climate change when talking about hurricanes.
What I see as hypocrisy is seeing all the grey nuances in one case, and being so fundamentalist and fanatic in the other
I used Islam as an example to compare. They criticise (and are right to do it) those who blame Islam 100% for terrorism, but do the same with climate change when talking about hurricanes.
What I see as hypocrisy is seeing all the grey nuances in one case, and being so fundamentalist and fanatic in the other
Northwest · M
@Cierzo OK, so then it's at least one person, maybe a few people. Not exactly "the left", defined as the broad left of Trump.
What I'm trying to say, is that, within every group, you're always going to find at least one person, possibly a few people, with unsupported opinions/claims.
Climate change is pretty complex, and cannot be reduced to a rigid political narrative.
What I'm trying to say, is that, within every group, you're always going to find at least one person, possibly a few people, with unsupported opinions/claims.
Climate change is pretty complex, and cannot be reduced to a rigid political narrative.