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Why are Trumpeters blind to Donalds Authoritarian Ways?

Inquiring minds and all....
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JenniferB · 51-55, F
Name ONE way he has acted in an authoritarian manner. Not a bullshit talking point. A verifiable way in which he has violated his powers under the Constitution and been "authoritarian." ONE.
CaptainCanadia · 41-45, M
@JenniferB Authoritarianism does not mean violating the constitution. It's a way of behaving as a leader.
JenniferB · 51-55, F
Again, I asked for an instance in which he, as President, has violated his powers and acted as an authoritarian. You could not provide one. Good night. Argument over.
CaptainCanadia · 41-45, M
@JenniferB Here's what you're doing. OP posts about a word. You redefine the word, and then challenge someone to meet your definition. When I disagree with you randomly redefining language you go "I AM SO SMART YOU LOST".

The only person you're impressing here is yourself. You may as well be shouting at a wall about how brilliant you are at politics.
SW-User
@JenniferB Trump is authoritarian in his very philosophy. His manner of leading is, in itself, authoritarian in nature. It's not uncommon. People from Nixon to Hitler to Gates to Lorne Michaels have run their worlds the same way.

Your provocation is no different that a Democrat asking for a single example of Obama "shredding" the Constitution. It's a distraction game.
JenniferB · 51-55, F
@SW-User I can name many examples of Obama shredding the Constitution, starting with DACA. Trump respects the Constitution, deferring to Congress on a matter on which he knows the Constitution grants him no power. That is the exact opposite of authoritarian. Comparing anyone to Hitler shows me your immature at the least and outright demented at the worst mindset.
CaptainCanadia · 41-45, M
@JenniferB See, you're not arguing here. You're jumping at incidental points in the conversation, using unrelated 'whatabouts', redefining words arbitrarily to ensure we're not talking about the same thing, and then going to personal insults to establish some kind of victory-by-virtue.

You don't believe that Trump is an authoritarian because you've demonstrated that you don't know what an authoritarian is. You just know it's a pejorative and thus it can only apply to politicians you dislike.
SW-User
@JenniferB Trump wants to use the exact plan Obama used, simply for an opposite effect. If it wasn't okay for one, it isn't okay for the other.
JenniferB · 51-55, F
@SW-User He has given CONGRESS six months to pass it, which is how laws are made. You should have learned that in 9th grade civics. If Congress does nothing, DACA is gone, as Trump has no authority to make law, nor did his predecessor.
JenniferB · 51-55, F
@CaptainCanadia You're making a fool of yourself and should just shut up. You don't know what authoritarian means or how it works.
CaptainCanadia · 41-45, M
@JenniferB Now you're basically doing "I know you are but what am I". Again and again you refuse to address the substance of the issue because your argument is nonsense. If the only definition of authoritarian was "American President who violates the constitution" that'd probably involve most Presidents at some point.

Authoritarianism is a form of government, and authoritarian is somebody who idealizes that form of government. It means a strong, unquestioned leader with few if any checks and balances, and limited political freedoms. Trump is an authoritarian for the following reasons:

- Hostile to any check on his power - particularly the press and the judiciary as well as the civil service, Congress, the FBI and CIA, etc...
- Is contemptuous of the law and sees it as an unnecessary or unfair constraint on his power
- Prizes loyalty over any other trait and promotes his family above a million other people because of that
- Defines himself as a necessity to combat societal problems - he has countless "Only I can..." statements
- Openly lies to discredit his enemies (Obama was wiretapping me)

Like, the list goes on. Trump's ideal America would be one where his word is law, the press is controlled by him and only positive (Trump TV, his daily serving of positive press about him), and where his enemies were silent and powerless. That's authoritarian.
JenniferB · 51-55, F
@CaptainCanadia If he was contemptuous of the law, wanted to be a dictator, yada, yada, yada, why did he defer to Congress on DACA? Why didn't Obama? Why did he strike a deal with Democrats (of all people) to get the debt ceiling/hurricane relief passed? He knows he only possesses the power the Constitution gives him, whereas the real authoritarian, Obama, bragged about his pen and his phone. Your head is stuck so far up your ass that you and most liberals cannot wrap yourselves around simple truths. You'd rather disparage a man you hate because you lost the election. And btw, the press deserves the contempt it gets. It is the most dishonest institution in America. An authoritarian would have moved to shut the press down. Last time I checked, the left-wing press is still alive and (not) well.