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Does water always find its own level?

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fakable · T
the water level depends on the pressure exerted on the water by the elements with which the water forms this level
TBIman · 41-45, M
@fakable I was looking for a simple yes, or no. It was a yes/no question. Thanks for participating though. I appreciate your answer.
fakable · T
@TBIman
. it is impossible to answer your question yes or no, because you have not indicated in the initial conditions the description of the environment with which the water has its level

.. or, the logical answer would be no, since in at least one case (out of all cases) the conditions of your problem are violated. however, then your question makes no sense, since there is only one possible answer
TBIman · 41-45, M
@fakable Ok, so you say no. That water does not always find its own level. Would you please cite the experiment which proves that water does not always find its own level please? I'd very much like to look at it. Thanks Margo. 😬
fakable · T
@TBIman
i didn't say no
i said no is the logical answer

. define the concept of water
.. define the concept of "its own level."

my answer will depend on what meanings you put into these concepts
TBIman · 41-45, M
@fakable Water is not a concept. Water is a liquid.

Water finding its own level means...that water is always level. Have you ever seen the surface of a body of water curve? I have not.

I'm listening to this now. https://youtu.be/YAKTD-6aDq4 It's an audiobook that you will not listen to, but you should.
fakable · T
@TBIman

ok
let's try to avoid precise definitions

well, for example, the water level in cave rivers is different

water in space has no water level

magnetic water can have different levels

water in a working centrifuge will have a level, which is difficult to call a level

etc.
TBIman · 41-45, M
@fakable Yes I agree, we should try to avoid precise definitions.

There is no water in outer space because outer space does not exist. I now believe that we exist within some sort of enclosure whether it be a physical enclosure or an energetic enclosure. We live within a vast expanse. It could even be an infinite expanse.

The floor of this expanse is level.

Yeah, I don't know anything about what a centrifuge is. So I don't want to comment on that.

Thanks for having this discussion with me Margo. So many others are just so sure that they live on a spinning water pear that they won't listen to reason.
afreshstart77 · 61-69, M
@TBIman I have an inquisitive (and mostly cynical) mind but never in my wildest dreams did I ever imagine I'd meet a [b]Gravity-denier[/b]
I need to check if I've somehow entered an alternative universe!

* Water does curve - just watch a sailboat as it disappears over the horizon (or does it just fall off the end of the ocean?

[i]These are rhetorical questions, I don't wish to dignify your ignorance by getting into a discussion about the obvious.[/i]
fakable · T
@afreshstart77
you think in stereotypes

the mass of objects creates gravity, not the other way around

the gravitational field is a consequence, not a cause

If we take into account only the gravitational field of the earth, then with respect to the earth's surface the curvature of the water surface does not exist

read, for example, about gravitation and imaginary curvature of stellar light as a path of photons

everything is relative
afreshstart77 · 61-69, M
@fakable In the 3 spacial dimensions of the universe, water does curve if looked at from spae, it's only when at ground level it looks flat. So you are right, it's all relative :)
fakable · T
@afreshstart77
that's not what i mean

water has no such property as "curvature" at all

your human mind gives water that property
afreshstart77 · 61-69, M
TBIman · 41-45, M
@fakable You are correct Margo. "water has no such property as "curvature" at all" If water is incapable of curving, how can we be living on a giant ball of water?
TBIman · 41-45, M
@fakable I see, and have [u]always[/u] seen perfectly flat water, and please don't give me the excuse of "what about a wave huh" I am talking about a body of motionless water, Not a droplet, or water in motion.

May I ask if you have ever looked into the obvious fact that the Earth is a motionless plane?