There's supposed to be a pink moon tonight.

@MartinTheFirst
This was taken by my son.

@MartinTheFirst the memorial of Jesus Christ's sacrifice for us?

@LadyGrace Yeah "1 Corinthians 11:24and after giving thanks, he broke it and said: “This means my body, which is in your behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.”

@MartinTheFirst oh okay that remembrance. I'm a little confused though. Some Churches take the sacrament every Sunday and some once a month so I wondered if this was a very special meeting or what. What church do you go to in do they do this often or I mean what made them decide that that particular day was when they wanted to do it? That's a good thing I just wondered. And of course it's even more confusing when you said it right after the moon thing.

@LadyGrace I'm a Jehovah's witness. We do it once a year, and we try to time it with the way that Jesus and his followers celebrated it themselves. The moon thing is important since that's how the Jews used to calculate the time of the passover, it's usually a full moon on the day that we have the memorial, and it was yesterday as well. What you said about it being a pink moon interested me because of this scripture:


You can read more about the memorial here: https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/w20131215/memorial-is-a-remembrance/
and even in greater detail about the date chosen for the memorial here: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1977452#h=8

@MartinTheFirst how long have you been a. Jehovah witness?

@LadyGrace All of my life

@MartinTheFirst that's not what that verse says. I'm talking about Acts 2:17. Reading from the Bible, that verse does not say anything about slaves.

17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:

21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

The Lord expects us to read from His Word. It is The Book of Life and it is called the Book of Life for a reason. The Lord said to follow it, not some other book by some other man. That's when you get other interpretations that are false in the Bible warns about.

In Acts 2:17, the speaker (Peter, quoting Joel 2:28-32) is speaking to the people gathered in Jerusalem on the day of Pentecost, who are confused and mocking the believers' apparent intoxication. He's explaining that their experiences are not the result of drunkenness, but the fulfillment of God's prophecy about pouring out His Spirit on all people.

It doesn't say slaves. It says servants and there's a big difference. Servants are hired and are not slaves. If the Bible had mint slaves it would have said so but it does not. Just because a person has a servant does it mean they are a slave. We have to be careful of what the Bible calls "other gospels". He warns against them and to stay away from them. I've seen how Jehovah witnesses work and I'm not trying to be mean or disrespectful here, but I have spoken to them and they do not know their Bible. They tried to convert me and convince me one time and I was happy to talk to them but they sure don't know their Bible and when I asked them questions and showed them the proof in the Bible they just took off.

@LadyGrace Servents and handmaidens in those times were the same things as slaves

@MartinTheFirst In this context yes it can mean slave, but still we must follow the Bible, not a book that man wrote.

@LadyGrace I'm not sure which version you use, but I ensure you that yours differs from the original scriptures as well since it too was translated by man. All bibles are translations... If you want to be really precise then you gonna need to learn ancient greek and hebrew and do the amount of work that is impossible for a single person to do in their lifetime. Picking a bible version and saying that it's the only correct one, when it was a translation also prone to translational errors is not very wise. Why do you say yours is more accurate than others? Do you have a good scientific basis for this?

Btw, we've talked about this before Grace.

@MartinTheFirst Acts 2:19-21, a part of Peter's sermon on Pentecost, refers to the prophecy in Joel 2:28-32. It speaks of signs and wonders in the heavens and on earth, culminating in the promise that "everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved". This verse essentially connects the events of Pentecost, like the gift of tongues, with the fulfillment of an Old Testament prophecy, highlighting that the outpouring of the Holy Spirit is a sign of the beginning of God's new covenant and salvation for all who believe.

@MartinTheFirst don't misinterpret what I'm saying. I didn't say mine was the only version that was true. And I never said nor implied that my version was the only correct one. I don't have such a thing as my version. I stick strictly with God's version, the Bible. I don't go by these modern translations. I know you study the Bible too, but you have your own version. A new translation and why do we need a new translation? I am saying God said to not stray from His Word. Jehovah witnesses go by their own translation of the Bible, the New World Translation and it does not match up with what the Bible says. And I'm not specifically speaking about the new world translation. I do study the Greek and Hebrew by the way when I study. I don't like the translations because when I read them they completely change the meaning and even the wording of God's word and in Revelation he said anyone who adds or takes away from my word, shall be cursed. Man doesn't need to change God's word. It's perfect just the way it is and it says what it means exactly the way it was written. And no. The Bible was not written by mere men. That theory leads to doctrinal inconsistencies and making doctrinal reversals, making failed predictions, and mistranslating the Bible.

@MartinTheFirst I've studied Jehovah witness practices. I respectfully do not agree.

@LadyGrace You call it the bible, it's a translation, most likely going by the name KJV... where V stands for "version", meaning it's just a version. 😅
Like I've told you before KJV removed the name of God YHWH, Yahweh, or Jehovah (or the hebrew letters). What greater sin can you do when it comes to removing things, than to remove God's very own name from his scriptures?

Jehovah's witnesses try to make the translation more accurate and complete in accordance with what was actually written, not changing or removing anything.

@MartinTheFirst The New world translation is Jehovah's Witnesses' specific theological interpretation, particularly regarding the nature of Jesus and the concept of the Holy Spirit.

The Bible wasn't written by mere man. https://similarworlds.com/beliefs/5268335-Discover-Hope-The-Bibles-Message-of-Transformation

@MartinTheFirst yes I do call with the Bible and yes it is a translation and even yours is a translation. There was nothing wrong with the Bible verse I gave you from revelation. I didn't say it verbatim but I can get the verse for you:

Revelation 2:19 - And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. [20] He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen.

I don't think you should criticize the King James version when many scholars criticize the New World translation for being biased towards Jehovah's Witnesses' specific theological interpretations, particularly regarding the nature of Jesus and the concept of the Holy Spirit.

@MartinTheFirst In 1963, theologian Anthony A. Hoekema wrote, "Their New World Translation of the Bible is by no means an objective rendering of the sacred text into modern English, but is a biased translation in which many of the peculiar teachings of the Watchtower Society are smuggled into the text of the Bible itself."


What greater sin, you say? Why did your Jehovah witness society change/replace Jehovah with "Lord"? It's still changing what God's word said.

Hundreds of years before Jesus came to earth, the Jews would not pronounce God's personal name. They were concerned that they might violate God's command to not take His name in vain. Instead of saying YHWH or Jehovah or Yahweh, that's the only reason they used the word Adonai, back then, which means Lord.

If you want to get technical, the Jehovah's Witnesses Bible been rewritten quite a few times which Revelation says not to do:

New World Translation
Revision 1970, 1971, 1981, 1984, 2013
Copies printed More than 240 million
Religious affiliation Jehovah's Witnesses


A total of 17 single verses are missing from the bible used by Jehovah's Witnesses. · Most bibles do not have gaps at the aforementioned verses.

What are the 16 omitted verses in the new world translation?

If you want to look for yourself, here are those 16 “missing” verses.
Mathew 23:14, Matthew 17:21, Matthew 18:11.
Mark 7:16, Mark 9:44, Mark 9:46, Mark 11:26, Mark 15:28.
Luke 17:36.
John 5:4.
Acts 8:37, Acts 15:34, Acts 24:7, Acts 28:29.
Romans 16:24.

@MartinTheFirst I think one of the huge differences in what Jehovah's Witnesses believe, is that the Holy Spirit is not a person, but God's active force or power. They see it as a tool that God uses to accomplish his will, not a separate entity in the Godhead.

God's Word says the Holy Spirit is a person. The Bible presents the Holy Spirit as a person through actions, attributes, and interactions that are characteristic of a person, not an impersonal force. While not explicitly stating "The Holy Spirit is a person," the Bible demonstrates this through various passages.

The Holy Spirit is confirmed in Scripture as having a mind, will, emotions, and intelligence. For example, the Holy Spirit intercedes for believers (Romans 8:26-27), distributes gifts (1 Corinthians 12:11), and can be grieved (Ephesians 4:30).

The Holy Spirit interacts with God the Father and the Son, and with believers, demonstrating a personal relationship. The Holy Spirit is described as the Comforter (John 14:26), Advocate (John 14:26), and Teacher (John 14:26).

The Bible confirms the Holy Spirit as part of the Trinity, alongside God the Father and God the Son. This emphasizes the distinct but unified nature of God as three co-equal persons.

There are many verses that speak of the trinity as being the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit unified. One does not do anything without the others consent. They all work together and that is shown in Genesis when God said let us make man in our own image.

@MartinTheFirst I believe the Holy Spirit must be accepted as a person, not just a force. God's Word says the Holy Spirit is a person.

It says that God will send the Comforter (the Holy Spirit) and he will teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. This passage, found in John 14:26, highlights the role of the Holy Spirit as a teacher and a reminder of Jesus' teachings.