When your thinking is more advanced than society by a margin such that you find most of their practices foolish and absurd, can’t relate to the way they think and do things, and see so much error and meaninglessness in most of their actions, you tend to do your own thing
Humans of average intelligence seem obsessed with copying each other and have a herd mentality similar to many herd animals in modern society
If not for modern society, people would all think individually or in their small groups; the big reason why extremely intelligent people and people who are mentally disabled both seem so strange is that, for different reasons, they don’t keep with the herd thinking
One case because they can’t keep up and often don’t bother, the other case because it seems ludicrous when you see the downfalls
I don’t think the condescension is fair. There’s survival value to adaptation and group-thinking. Long-term, if everybody did their own thing it would be chaos, not beneficial. In general though, I agree with this post. A lot of practices are recognized as superfluous and not worth the time/energy unless it serves a momentary usefulness @th3r0n
@WhateverWorks the group thinking that is beneficial is planning and cooperation, which modern society isn’t exactly known for
Copying each other and trying to be the same while fighting each other and competing and being hateful to each other makes modern society a nightmare
An individual with average intelligence could come up with better ways to behave and cooperate than society tends to operate on, why? Because it’s not a collaboration it’s a selfishness based copycat festival
Intelligence does not guarantee collaboration or good intentions, but someone intelligent can see these issues
I’m an odd one, I slept through calculus classes and doubled the second highest score at my college on the test for a statewide competition that I won, but I’m into martial arts and survival equipment
I definitely think for myself though, that’s why we have different types of weird but are all weird
I think part of the issue is that humans operate on an in-group outgroup bias, but we haven’t worked out the kinks on how to effectively navigate diversity, meaning all the intermingling of different operating systems. To implement a ‘better mechanism’ would require homogeny and not a lot of people willfully sign up for that since that would require a relinquishing of their personal identity and evoke mass existential crisis.
@WhateverWorks collaboration doesn’t require homogeny, it only requires effort and positive intention with mutual willingness to work together to improve general life quality
We actually lose much trying to be homogenous, that’s actually the principal issue I was mentioning
If my strength is 10 and the average is 5, but my navigational skill is 1 and the average is 5, trying to make both 5 will result in me losing strength that could have been used to the benefit of society and perhaps gaining some navigational skill but doubtful it gets to 5
But it goes deeper, in society we have great need for both specialized workers and those who can think of ideas that are needed and not thought of by most
Uniqueness is not inherently good (think LGBT, yuck) but unique positive traits are what benefit society
If we try to homogenize we lose far more than we gain
Agree to disagree. When people have beliefs that are in direct conflict with each other there’s no collaboration on the implementation of those beliefs, especially when those actions effect others beyond the individual’s personal sphere, hence all the trouble. in such a scenario either someone has to relinquish their belief or mutually agree to discard that belief. For instance, by your own admission, in order to implement your perception of a better operating system LGBTQA+ would need to be extinguished for the sake of the homogeny.
@WhateverWorks they are inherently evil, but I definitely have not killed any of them. In fact, extinguished is not the word I would use. They need help, they need to turn away from darkness.
The words I speak now are not due to intelligence but wisdom, a very different thing, from the word of truth which is the Bible
Well, there you have it. Some interpretation of the Bible is your operating system. It really doesn’t matter whether you kill anyone in the thought experiment. The point is that other people have different operating systems that do not wish to comply to your belief structure. @th3r0n
@WhateverWorks collaborating to make society function does not require the same beliefs, I do not require that someone believes the same things for me to service their Computer for money. I am a network technician, it’s my job and I do it when I get paid
When your thinking is more advanced than society by a margin such that you find most of their practices foolish and absurd, can’t relate to the way they think and do things, and see so much error and meaninglessness in most of their actions, you tend to do your own thing
Humans of average intelligence seem obsessed with copying each other and have a herd mentality similar to many herd animals in modern society
If not for modern society, people would all think individually or in their small groups; the big reason why extremely intelligent people and people who are mentally disabled both seem so strange is that, for different reasons, they don’t keep with the herd thinking
One case because they can’t keep up and often don’t bother, the other case because it seems ludicrous when you see the downfalls
This is the best explanation I've seen on this thread. My view is, people with higher than average intelligence are more evolved, and do not feel the need to have to be in "the herd". Many of the smartest people in history were complete loners because they felt they couldn't relate to the general population, or just outright felt the general population were just too stupid for them.
@ShadowWolf honestly being more intelligent lets you see a lot, and I find intelligence to be one form of power, but I have found that any form of power without wisdom of equal degree leads to destruction
@th3r0n Knowledge and intelligence is power. I fully agree. Wisdom is important for the reason you mentioned. You get situations like Jurassic Park/World with alot of knowledge, but little wisdom.
