We were all going to DIE!
They Promised!
But actually,
They Lied and Got Rich and now they Laugh at Us!
They Promised!
But actually,
They Lied and Got Rich and now they Laugh at Us!
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Markmywurdz · 56-60, M
@Dust057 Based on archaeological evidence in the Dogger Bank area of the North Sea, the average sea level rise over the past 10,000 years works out to be about 12 inches per century, so by your figures it has actually slowed down a bit in the last 100 years.
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IWasCallingYaLarry · 31-35, M
@KneAuxBody Yeah I don't take climate change activists seriously. Yes, climates change, but is it a world ending issue? No.
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@Neoerectus there you go again..lots of bull to get your message across
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Neoerectus A couple of millennia... enough time for the sea-level to rise, maybe, 10 metres? (A level identified left by the last interglacial, by "raised beach" deposits, some well inland from the present coasts).
If all terrestrial ice were to melt the sea-levels would be higher still, but none of us here now will be around to see it.
The most we can do is slow the anthropogenic climate-change warned of 100 years ago, and which few now try seriously to deny, and hope that works; but any natural component to the change would be beyond our control.
So even IF we eventually find we have blamed ourselves wrongly and the climate is changing entirely naturally, there is nothing we can do to control it and its many results across the world.
We are still in an Ice Age, but it will be for our far descendents probably millennia hence to cope with the next natural interglacial or even worse, its complete end.*
All we can do now is try to stop our own damage to the climate, and with it our over-exploitation of finite natural resources, but it is becoming clear we should started many decades ago, back in the era when we still arrogantly thought we could "tame Nature".
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+Humans appeared less than half a million years ago, so how did our ancients cope with climate change across at least one interglacial, subsequent cooling, then re-warming to the present?
Easy for them: the changes were slow in human terms though with some effects rapid enough for folk-memory; there were far fewer people about, in largely nomadic communities without any of the complicated interlinks we have in our far larger, very tangled, settled populations now; and moving very much as the climate and wildlife dictated.
If all terrestrial ice were to melt the sea-levels would be higher still, but none of us here now will be around to see it.
The most we can do is slow the anthropogenic climate-change warned of 100 years ago, and which few now try seriously to deny, and hope that works; but any natural component to the change would be beyond our control.
So even IF we eventually find we have blamed ourselves wrongly and the climate is changing entirely naturally, there is nothing we can do to control it and its many results across the world.
We are still in an Ice Age, but it will be for our far descendents probably millennia hence to cope with the next natural interglacial or even worse, its complete end.*
All we can do now is try to stop our own damage to the climate, and with it our over-exploitation of finite natural resources, but it is becoming clear we should started many decades ago, back in the era when we still arrogantly thought we could "tame Nature".
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+Humans appeared less than half a million years ago, so how did our ancients cope with climate change across at least one interglacial, subsequent cooling, then re-warming to the present?
Easy for them: the changes were slow in human terms though with some effects rapid enough for folk-memory; there were far fewer people about, in largely nomadic communities without any of the complicated interlinks we have in our far larger, very tangled, settled populations now; and moving very much as the climate and wildlife dictated.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Um.. They are. Go ask the people of the Marshall Islands or the Maldives...Many Pacific Islanders have lost their fresh water supplied to rising sea levels and can no longer grow crops in what used to be their garden areas..😷
@whowasthatmaskedman exactly.The climate hysteria is all Fake. There is no danger from climate change.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Zenbra So do you work for a fossil fuel company? Or are you just attention seeking??😷
@whowasthatmaskedman I just look for the truth . You obviously don't have it.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
They ARE visible if you live by the sea.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@Zenbra Go look -- and wear you Wellies.
@ChipmunkErnie stop the nonsense
Dust057 · 46-50
@ChipmunkErnie actually I live on the ocean, and it's not. It's a very gradual change, only inches over the course of years. Not something we are going to notice in our lifetime, or if we do take note over a lifetime it will still be a matter of inches or feet. This is negligible for those of us who live on the ocean, considering the sea level changes with the tide by several feet. My boat can be a few meters above or below where it was several hours prior, depending on the tide.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
It's predicted for the decades to come unless we can actually do anything to prevent it, but it will be slow. Already the Greenland and Antarctic ice-covers, and high-altitude mountain glaciers, are retreating, pouring vast volumes of water into the sea.
Dust057 · 46-50
@wildbill83 cool photo, and very convincing for those who want to be convinced. For those who prefer truth to convenience:
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-plymouth-rock-sea-level-924629756946
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/plymouth-rock-sea-level-rise/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/07/18/fact-check-plymouth-rock-not-accurate-gauge-sea-level-rise/10010728002/
Some key points:
"Plymouth Rock has not remained in its original location over the centuries, and sea level rise has been well-documented in the surrounding region, experts say. In addition, the photo also does not take account of regular tidal fluctuations."
"The rock has been broken, split, and relocated multiple times over the past two and a half centuries...The rock is regularly underwater at high tide in its present location underneath a granite portico built in 1921" Donna D. Curtin, executive director of the Pilgrim Hall Museum in Plymouth
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-plymouth-rock-sea-level-924629756946
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/plymouth-rock-sea-level-rise/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/07/18/fact-check-plymouth-rock-not-accurate-gauge-sea-level-rise/10010728002/
Some key points:
"Plymouth Rock has not remained in its original location over the centuries, and sea level rise has been well-documented in the surrounding region, experts say. In addition, the photo also does not take account of regular tidal fluctuations."
"The rock has been broken, split, and relocated multiple times over the past two and a half centuries...The rock is regularly underwater at high tide in its present location underneath a granite portico built in 1921" Donna D. Curtin, executive director of the Pilgrim Hall Museum in Plymouth
Dust057 · 46-50
@wildbill83 an article regarding Ft. Denison and a study conducted about the very real concern the government has about protecting this historical site:
https://www.climatechange.environment.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-06/Fort%20Denison%20sea%20level%20rise%20study.pdf
" ...recent climate change induced sea level rise projections ranging between 20 and 100cm by the year 2100 will have a significant bearing on the management and utilisation of this iconic facility into the future and are examined in detail within the study...to address outstanding maintenance and repair issues on the Fort and to undertake research into key threatening processes, including the process of sea level rise."
(based on data, rather than ego based emotional reactions)
https://www.climatechange.environment.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-06/Fort%20Denison%20sea%20level%20rise%20study.pdf
" ...recent climate change induced sea level rise projections ranging between 20 and 100cm by the year 2100 will have a significant bearing on the management and utilisation of this iconic facility into the future and are examined in detail within the study...to address outstanding maintenance and repair issues on the Fort and to undertake research into key threatening processes, including the process of sea level rise."
(based on data, rather than ego based emotional reactions)
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Dust057 A rise of even half-way between those estimates (so 600mm - I surprised the writers used the centimetre) would have far more serious effects on huge numbers of people and buildings such as their homes, than on this one disused fort. Even just locally, the potential effects on the rest of Sydney and Sydney Harbour might be more to the point!
(Fort Denison, long disused as that, and its island now form a tourist attraction, and do hold tide-gauges.)
(Fort Denison, long disused as that, and its island now form a tourist attraction, and do hold tide-gauges.)
BohemianBabe · M
They have.
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-sea-level
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-sea-level
Oster1 · M
@BohemianBabe Keyboard sissy boy! Kindness lost forever, sissy !
BohemianBabe · M
@Oster1 At least I don't lie to myself in order to feel important like you do with these nonsense conspiracy theories.
Oster1 · M
@BohemianBabe Hahahaha! you lie to yourself, everytime you look in the mirror! Mental illness is real, sissy boy!
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
Yes it's measured and it's happening faster than predicted.
https://youtu.be/mV_3J92w4h8.
https://youtu.be/mV_3J92w4h8.
@Roundandroundwego please stop the Bull.
HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
There is no anthropogenic global warming/climate change
@HoraceGreenley I 100% agree
Punches · 46-50, F
Oh the sky has been falling since the day the earth was born.
If any of the propaganda were ever true, we would all be dead of something by now
If any of the propaganda were ever true, we would all be dead of something by now
Punches · 46-50, F
@Roundandroundwego It just seems like it would have all been over by now. Well like this - as much pollution that is created daily, wouldn't our atmosphere be unable to sustain life by now?
Would disease have killed us all off? Would world war 3 have already happened? Would Christ have returned by now? Would the world be over heated by now?
Wouldn't the banks have all crashed by now, all of us starving, etc?
Would disease have killed us all off? Would world war 3 have already happened? Would Christ have returned by now? Would the world be over heated by now?
Wouldn't the banks have all crashed by now, all of us starving, etc?
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@Punches sure. We don't need more excuses. You certainly intend no change of course on the way to total system failure for the ecosystem and society. We're watching you, but no way to stop you.

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Paid troll alert🤭
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@canusernamebemyusername He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy!"😷

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wildbill83 · 41-45, M
just imagine, hundreds or thousands of years from now, when the world is populated entirely by woke idiots that are carbon neutral (not actually possible, but lets roll with it for hypothetical sake), the look on their faces when the world gets destroyed by a supervolcano eruption or asteroid impact...
at least, within the few seconds or minutes they have before getting vaporized by the heat wave or crushed under a wall of water 1000ft high... 🤔
mind you, both natural disasters of which are more likely, and occur at greater frequency than any other doomsday scenario...
the perfect poetic justice... 🤔
at least, within the few seconds or minutes they have before getting vaporized by the heat wave or crushed under a wall of water 1000ft high... 🤔
mind you, both natural disasters of which are more likely, and occur at greater frequency than any other doomsday scenario...
the perfect poetic justice... 🤔

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You can always tell the crackpots who don't actually live by the coast, but sure have plenty to say about the coast