Is anyone else just a teensy bit excited for death? (Not a cry for help, I'm fine, just hear me out)

@Eternity Direct scientific observation is, but those observations can be used to extrapolate stuff that we can't observe. I mean, no piece of equipment is capable of seeing a black hole, but we can logic out their existence based on the effect that their gravity has on nearby objects. While there's obv a degree of uncertainty surrounding the mind thanks to the hard problem of consciousness, what we're talking about is analogous to what happens to your software when you throw your computer into a volcano. Sure, it's possible that it all gets uploaded into a hard drive in another dimension somewhere... but that's not what Occam's Razor would dictate one believe.

@BlueVeins fair point, but jumping to conclusions is unscientific. And the hard fact of the matter is that there is too much mud floating in the water to make safe assumptions about the deep.

Only way to know for sure is to jump in...but then there's no way out to tell the tale...a lot like a black hole.

And speaking of black holes, we actually don't know what the singularity truly is. We have mathematical models that give us certain 'likely' qualities but if physics break down in the singularity then that means that things could be going on in there that are beyond what we understand about nature and the universe...things that physics says should be impossible.

Black holes have an event horizon, and so too does death.

We have a great understanding of all events leading up to the threshold, but beyond the veil there is something that can only be speculated about.

@BlueVeins Just throwing this out there but there's also different dimensions we assume by calculating what we observe. Just like your black hole example. We can't observe them by our existence to be able to know whether our conciousness or not exists or moves in them.

@Eternity What you're describing is beyond scientific theory, as there's no way to test for it. In that sense, anything is possible. We could be living in a computer simulation, or the Gnostic belief that the universe was created by a malevolent demiurge could be correct. It's fun to speculate about all this but it's not going to influence how I live my life.

@LeopoldBloom and thats fine. Hell, I agree.

Im just trying to explain how unknowable death is and why that excites me on some level.

@SW-User even that would be novel 🤷🏽‍♂️. Nothing, true and utter nothingness, is beyond our comprehension. So to 'experience' it (or to be it for lack of a better term) would itself be pretty "mind blowing".

@PepsiColaP i remember the day i asked my mom about life and death.

I was real young; I know this because everything in that memory is so big compared to me. I think I was in preschool at the time or at least about to be, probably about 4 years old.

I asked her if we do "this" forever.

She asked me what "this" is.

I just kind of gestured around with my hands because I didn't have words to describe the concept of living.

"...life? Living?" She inferred, correctly.

I said yes, and she told me that no. We live for a while and then we die and go to heaven.

I asked her if heaven lasts forever.

She said yes.

I thought about that for a while and told her that the idea of doing something forever, never ever ending, made me uncomfortable. (Disclaimer: im sure i said this in a very baby-esque way. I just dont remember my exact words)

She told me to trust in god.

I dont consider myself a Christian/a believer in the god of the bible like she is but i still find that conversation interesting.

@TurtleEclipseOfTheHeart How does it work with a widow who remarries? Her two husbands just somehow get along with each other?