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Trumpy is going to try to pull US out of NATO to help his partner Putin conquer more countries. This will be the end of our planet.
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ArishMell · 70-79, M
Has he actually stated that?

He has started wanting other members to pay more towards NATO, but nothing about anyone leaving.
joe438 · 61-69, M
@ArishMell I hadn't heard that, but he did entertain questions about that in December and express his concern about how seriously other NATO countries take the alliance. There's no record i can find of him saying anything since 1/20/25
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@joe438 Well, living in a NATO country that does take the alliance seriously, obviously we should be active supporters and pay a fair share. NATO is vital but it is unfair to taxpayers for one country to shoulder most of the burden; although numerically the shares can't be equal numbers of $, £ or Euros..
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Kenworth4954 · 56-60, M
Care to explain how this will be then end of the planet drama queen......I mean insert pronoun here 🙄🤣🤣🤣🤣
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DogMan · 61-69, M
Why is it that Putin only attacks other countries when there is a Democrat in the white house?
Richard65 · M
Trump seems to think paying a percentage of GDP to NATO is the main concern for members and that the USA is getting short changed by its allies who don't pay up. The USA has mounted an ongoing imperialist project to spread its influence globally, using soft and hard power. This is crucial to its status as the world's only remaining superpower. When countries (like the UK) join NATO, they enter into the Status of Forces Agreement. This allows the US to build bases on sovereign soil and operate militarily within the host state. In effect, the USA gets to plant its flag in every NATO member's territory and maintain a small but powerful slice of US military presence there. They currently have 800 bases worldwide and at least thirteen bases in the UK, which are officially designated as Royal Air Force Bases. They're not RAF bases, they're top secret American military territory. So, by ditching NATO, Trump does indeed leave America's allies to fend for themselves (as if that in itself is good for American global security) but he also jeopardises 800 aircraft carrier-countries that currently host US military might and which enable the USA to continue its global Imperialist Project.
Be careful what you wish for.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Richard65 Never underestimate the enemy.

The USA is not the only world superpower. There are two: the USA and China, and China is after being Number One, and probably on course to be that.

She has the advantage over democratic nations of being a stable dictatorship able to plan years ahead without worrying about the uncertain twists and turns of multi-party electoral systems and public opinions.

The Royal Air Force bases in Britain are RAF (i.e. the property of Great Britain) albeit that some are used by the USAAF. The USA also has an enormous radar and radio listening-post in the North of England, and that is America's though I don't know the land-use arrangement.

Of course they are secret! All military bases around the world hold their secrets, so the description as "top-secret" is superfluous.

What was frightening is that at the height of the Cold War, America plonked nuclear-armed ballistic-missiles on the British Isles with no plan to ask the UK government permission to launch them. So a foreign country would be more likely a prime target than the USA, at least in theory.

(Both countries would have been targets of course, and no amount of playing tortoises under school desks would have prevented vast losses of life to all warring nations.)
joe438 · 61-69, M
He did say he'd advocate pulling out if the rest of NATO doesn't pay their share and pull their own weight. When did he say he wanted to help Putin? Did you just make that up?
JamesBugman · 56-60, T
Trump calls for ‘immediate’ cease-fire in Ukraine, says U.S. withdrawal from NATO is possible
joe438 · 61-69, M
@JamesBugman the articles I’m finding is that he’s threatening pulling out if the other countries don’t pay their share and pull their weight.

The ceasefire is obviously a great idea and if it happens because Trump called for it, that says a lot.
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Gibbon · 70-79, M
Oh another fear monger jumps on the stage.
NATO is USA, just that part that's above democracy and the oligarchs. The scared part.
Kenworth4954 · 56-60, M
That'll be cool
JamesBugman · 56-60, T
You mean cool for Russia/China. They will be beaming over this idea. It is probably Putin's idea.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
Love parody posts.
Americans voted for this. We Greens and socialists offered the way out and the people prefer to kill everyone and they're getting the ecosystem, too.
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