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A message to Americans: vote for Trump

If you are an American who is voting today, you need to vote for Trump. Trump is the anti-war candidate and the man who wants peace in the world. Thousands of lives are being lost in Ukraine and there remains the possibility of escalation. NATO recently came very close to escalating the conflict by considering direct involvement. If they had facilitated the use of Franco-British missiles inside Russia, we would likely have global war. The way to stop global war is to vote Trump. Trump will also help subdue tensions in the Middle East. Trump will act on the border crisis in the US.

Donald Trump is a patriot who cares about America. Your country needs a strong man to lead it. It would be a delusion to think that Kamala is a good leader who is respected by the rest of the world.

Trump respects democracy more than Harris respects democracy. Is it democratic to want to compel unwilling states, anti-abortion states, to get rid of their laws on abortion?

Vote Trump!
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Colormegone · 70-79, M
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UncleCog · 31-35, M
@Colormegone
SW-User
@Colormegone Is this supposed to mean something?
Colormegone · 70-79, M
@SW-User Трамп — марионетка Путина!
SW-User
@Colormegone Какой же вы глубоко интеллигентный человек! Я так впечатлен! Ух ты!!
@SW-User Is he wrong? Why do you think Putin and a bunch of other dictators want Trump back? They know he's weak and will bend over for them.
RageAgainstTheMachine · 41-45, M
@Colormegone Now the post makes more sense; more political propaganda from the Putin Regime.
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@BohemianBabe Kamala bends over for the Washington elites. Trump never bent over for Putin. He respects Russia and understands that he should not be interfering in Russian affairs. Donald Trump wants to have a good relationship with Russia, and he wants there to be no war in Ukraine. He is a practical and rational leader who loves his country and doesn't want to be a CIA puppet. How many Americans really want war in Ukraine? How many want to continue provoking Russia? We are finding out tonight.
@SW-User
Kamala bends over for the Washington elites.

Examples?

Donald Trump wants to have a good relationship with Russia, and he wants there to be no war in Ukraine.

I don't want war in Ukraine either. But because Trump is a simp for dictators, he wants to turn Ukraine over to Putin, instead of forcing Putin out of Ukraine.
GoldenOldie · 31-35, M
@BohemianBabe she did not deny - so it is truth. The FSB are on route to suppress failure to alter Western criticism. I suddenly have an urge to wish President Zelensky victory! Do thank you @SW-User for placing the imagery of a Ukraine victory into my mind - I think I will write to my representative in response to this newfound confidence in a victory and urge their support in any new deals made! ☺☺☺ @RageAgainstTheMachine
GoldenOldie · 31-35, M
@RageAgainstTheMachine @BohemianBabe tell me friends? Now that I share these images of an Ukraine victory in my mind - do you feel an urge to wish President Zelensky well also? I definitely feel @SW-User had a profound impact on this resurgence of Ukraine support in my heart! Thank you so much! ☺
GoldenOldie · 31-35, M
@Colormegone yes, I was shocked they were in Russia also - I believed they were Russian government bot until they sent encrypted troop movements to me to make use of ☺ Zelensky is going to be happy!
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@SW-User
You are lacking imagination when you compare the war in Ukraine to Nazi Germany, a country which invaded territory all over Europe, for different reasons.

The specific brand of Fascism in modern Russia is different from the Fascism of Nazi Germany. However, the propaganda when it comes to this war is very similar. The Nazis justified their invasion of other countries by saying that it was German land, that many of the people there were ethnically German. Much like Putin has said that Ukraine is part of Russia, the Ukrainians are Russians. This is "Blood and Soil," as the Nazis said.

This is why it's so stupid to say that if Ukraine didn't try to join the EU or NATO, Russia wouldn't have invaded. Especially since Russia also invaded Georgia and Chechnya.
GoldenOldie · 31-35, M
@BohemianBabe no, they are secretly passing intel to Ukraine 🥲 they love the West and say Putin is hated as a failed dictator-lite - we all of us love Ukraine 🇺🇦
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@BohemianBabe You have mentioned one of the differences between Nazi Germany and Russia; Putin has never said that Ukraine is Russian land. He has no interest in taking foreign territories and making them Russia. Germany did invade some countries for practical reasons too. Greece was a practical invasion.

The war in Ukraine is a proxy war, being fought to get the West away from Russia's borders and to ensure they are not able to weaken Russia by commercializing Ukraine's oil and gas. The West already does control Ukraine, but it is another matter for them to use Ukraine to weaken Russia. Russia is where the West would like to go, the country they feel the need to dominate most of all.

Why is Chechnya controversial? The Chechen militants invaded Dagestan and wanted to expel Russians. They wanted to ethnically cleanse Russia. Is that something you approve of? What would you have done? Putin did save Russians. The Republic of Dagestan was saved, and Chechnya is saved to the degree the extremists are not in power and are not able to invade neighboring parts of Russia. Despite their leader being pro Russian, they do cause problems and it is an ongoing issue. Are you the type to let people get forced out of their homes, losing territory belonging to you, by extremist Islamists?
GoldenOldie · 31-35, M
@SW-User do you bots sleep or recharge? Does a person relive you when your shift is over? Why do you make accounts and then they rest until activation many months later? Is Putin dead? Why did KGB become FSB?

When the war is won by Ukraine how many propagandists will be be charged? Why is Kim BFFs with Putin? Has he got no shame or integrity to see how having an actual old school personality cult leader as an ally tell us how bad the war is going? He must be packing a go-bag if things look like they are heading for a change…
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@GoldenOldie “When the war is won by Ukraine...”

This is a good one!
GoldenOldie · 31-35, M
@SW-User why does Putin need North Korean’s if he is winning? Is it because he is loosing and can’t face it?
@SW-User
Putin has never said that Ukraine is Russian land. He has no interest in taking foreign territories

He absolutely has! Dude wrote a whole-ass essay about this idea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Historical_Unity_of_Russians_and_Ukrainians

The war in Ukraine is a proxy war, being fought to get the West away from Russia's borders and to ensure they are not able to weaken Russia by commercializing Ukraine's oil and gas.

There are plenty of reasons Russia invaded. War is almost always a result of material conditions. However, the propaganda that Putin is using to justify the invasion is Blood and Soil, which is what the Nazis used to justify annexing Austria and the Sudetenland.

The Chechen militants invaded Dagestan and wanted to expel Russians. They wanted to ethnically cleanse Russia. Is that something you approve of? What would you have done?

I would have taken in all the refugees, but I wouldn't have annexed the country.
GoldenOldie · 31-35, M
@BohemianBabe Putin wanted to walk in and take land - he failed and now there is a war of attrition like WW1 because he can’t back down. Too much blood on foreign soil to retain the presidency (plus all those “funny” deaths keep happening to his enemies - maybe he fears the saying live by the sword, die by the sword) regardless, now he has to be friends with Kim and NK he shows he is reliant on pariah states to sure-up his failing warmongering regime
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@BohemianBabe What do you know about the militants in Chechnya? Do you understand how defending your country from a threat works? Why should Russians, Jews, and other minorities have to leave their homes because the Islamists want to take over? These are Islamists from Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan and other Muslim countries.

Putin says that Russia and Ukraine share a culture and history. Is that untrue? In his essay, he says that Russians who have lived in Ukraine for centuries should be able to stay there. He respects Ukrainians and Belarusians, and wants them to respect Russians.

The Germans in Sudetenland wanted Hitler, and so did the Austrians. What was Hitler doing wrong? He was acknowledging their will.
@SW-User
Why should Russians, Jews, and other minorities have to leave their homes because the Islamists want to take over?

I didn't say they should. You asked what I would do in that situation. I would take in all of the refugees. I don't think invading other countries works out well, even if it is to help the population there. Though that wasn't even the real reason Putin invaded, it was just the excuse.

Putin says that Russia and Ukraine share a culture and history. Is that untrue? In his essay, he says that Russians who have lived in Ukraine for centuries should be able to stay there

He was using this as an excuse to invade Ukraine. That's the Blood and Soil argument. It's the idea that you have a right to invade another country if the people there are of the same ancestry and culture.

The Germans in Sudetenland wanted Hitler, and so did the Austrians. What was Hitler doing wrong? He was acknowledging their will.

Some did, some didn't. They didn't take a vote, the Nazis just invaded. There were also Iraqis who wanted America to invade Iraq, it was still a huge mistake.
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@BohemianBabe If we use your logic, we can say that Ukraine is wrong for invading Kursk and unsettling the population there. Moreover, the Ukrainian refugees should remain in Poland and other surrounding countries, never to return to their homes again. They should give Ukraine up.

There is no good reason the Russians should accept Islamists taking over a Russian republic with Russians, Jews, and others living there. Dagestan has a Jewish population who don't want to be ruled by the Islamists. They, and the moderate Muslims, want pro Russian leadership that is not extremist. If Ukraine invading Russia in response to Russia invading Ukraine is justified, it is more than justified for Russia to go into Chechnya after their Islamists invaded the Russian Republic of Dagestan. Would you want to have extremist Islamists running an area IN your country, freely invading republics belonging to your nation and forcing people who live in them to flee? Russia accepts that they are Muslim, but it does not accept it when they take over with a vehemently anti-Russian, militant, extremist leadership. Arabs, which many of them were, have no right being in Chechnya and Dagestan taking over parts of Russia. They can go back to Saudi Arabia and the other countries they came from in the Middle East or Greater Middle East. Southern Russia is not theirs.

Putin invaded Ukraine after US ousted the pro Russian government for a second time, creating violent tensions in Ukraine. Russia also needs to ensure US cannot use Ukraine to make it economically weaker by commercializing its natural resources. Using the Hitler and Nazi Germany analogy is wrong and shows a great lack of understanding on your part.
@SW-User
If we use your logic, we can say that Ukraine is wrong for invading Kursk and unsettling the population there

That's different because that was part of a war. However, if Ukraine wins, then they should leave Kursk. I don't think the winners of a war should take land from the losers, even if it was a war of self-defense.

Moreover, the Ukrainian refugees should remain in Poland and other surrounding countries, never to return to their homes again. They should give Ukraine up.

That's quite deranged, but ok.

There is no good reason the Russians should accept Islamists taking over a Russian republic with Russians, Jews, and others living there. Dagestan has a Jewish population who don't want to be ruled by the Islamists.

Religious minorities don't have the same civil liberties that Muslims have in Iran. Should America invade Iran? How about North Korea? The logic you're using is the logic of the Iraq War. In the real world, it doesn't work well.
Also, let's not pretend Russia annexed Chechnya to help anyone there. Chechnya is still a shithole today, plus Russia as a whole is an authoritarian state.

Russia also needs to ensure US cannot use Ukraine to make it economically weaker by commercializing its natural resources.

So if Russia made a deal with China that might harm Japan economically, Japan would be justified in invading China. That's the insane logic you're using.

Using the Hitler and Nazi Germany analogy is wrong and shows a great lack of understanding on your part.

The Nazis justified annexing Austria and the Sudetenland by saying the people there are German, the land is German, so it should be part of Germany whether the local populations like it or not. Putin used the exact same logic, saying that Ukraine is Russian and must be part of Russia.