the problem with trump is hes an old grump, and the usa is full of them, so he may win , on the grump vote, is this true?

trump reminds meof the old guy in the bar,always making wise cracks, moaning about immigrants, young people, gays, women , rich, poor, just whiningon andon, and telling everybody how smart he is,

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thisguy20 · 41-45, M

I've known several "old guy in the bar" types: not a single one of whom claimed to be smart. Many of them had "If I was smart I would have" moments

ElwoodBlues · M

Trump lost the debate, and it wasn't even close.

Almost 2 to 1 in this poll reported by Fox News, the public thought Harris won and Trump lost.

The survey respondents went into Tuesday night's debate split, with 50% saying they expected Trump to win and 50% saying they expected a Harris victory. By the end of the night, however, 63% said Harris came out on top, compared to 37% for Trump.

Broken down by candidate, 96% of Harris' supporters said they thought she won, while 69% of Trump supporters said the former president won.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/huge-majority-debate-watchers-say-harris-took-home-victory-cnn-poll-finds

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