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the problem with trump is hes an old grump, and the usa is full of them, so he may win , on the grump vote, is this true?

trump reminds meof the old guy in the bar,always making wise cracks, moaning about immigrants, young people, gays, women , rich, poor, just whiningon andon, and telling everybody how smart he is,
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Trump lost the debate, and it wasn't even close.

Almost 2 to 1 in this poll reported by Fox News, the public thought Harris won and Trump lost.

The survey respondents went into Tuesday night's debate split, with 50% saying they expected Trump to win and 50% saying they expected a Harris victory. By the end of the night, however, 63% said Harris came out on top, compared to 37% for Trump.

Broken down by candidate, 96% of Harris' supporters said they thought she won, while 69% of Trump supporters said the former president won.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/huge-majority-debate-watchers-say-harris-took-home-victory-cnn-poll-finds
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I've known several "old guy in the bar" types: not a single one of whom claimed to be smart. Many of them had "If I was smart I would have" moments
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@SomeMichGuy I am sure that you’d agree that Dirty Diaper Donnie is many Orders of Magnitude worse than RMN!
That describes not only Dirty Diaper Donnie but the majority of his brainwashed cult, too!

 
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