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They didn't want trump to win because the democrat leaders knew that putin would have never invaded Ukraine with trump in office

they made Biden win even though he DID NOT WIN because they wanted Putin to invade Ukraine so we could "help" Ukraine because Ukraine has oil 🙃

it was literally all about the fucking oil. just like when bush did 911 so we could justify bombing the hell out of the middle east because they supposedly attacked us.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
He wouldn't have had to. Trump would have allied with Putin to take over Ukraine for Mother Russia and Trump's God, Putin.
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@windinhishair respectfully disagree
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@DeluxedEdition Trump has already said he trusts Putin more than his advisors and has shown his willingness to side with Putin over US interests. He has said that Russia should take whatever countries it wants and that the US will not support our NATO allies if Trump believes countries aren't paying their share.
There is no doubt it would be the same the second time around. Trump doesn't stop Putin from doing anything. He enables Putin to do as he pleases.
FreestyleArt · 31-35, M
I don't think it's oil. Half of it has to do with Wheat, which they are huge in Ukraine.


Also Putin doesn't want NATO to extend further tours their borders.

After all, NATO did started it by Breaking International agreement after the Fall of Soviet Union back in the early 90's.

NATO broke that promise they will never extend all over Europe....
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
I don't know that it is about oil. I personally think it is about war. War is an end in itself. Huge fortunes are made by the arms manufacturers and the bankers who are lending the money to the combatants. Don't forget during WWII the banks were financing both sides and raking in a fortune in interest.
Seems like they wanted Bernie to lose to trump or Biden. But we the people really aren't allowed to exist. We don't remember them picking trump over Bernie. No shadow app in Iowa. Nothing there.
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@Roundandroundwego Well that's because we have descended into oligarchy. The rich elite have all of the power. We just have the facade of "democracy"
ABCDEF7 · M
Hmm.. Seems like a conspiracy. But why does it matter much in times of new generation of EV.
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@ABCDEF7 "ev" ??
ABCDEF7 · M
@DeluxedEdition Electric Vehicle
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@ABCDEF7 Because the old giants whom own the oil and the oil stockholders that's why they try to politicize "going green" like it's a "stupid liberal thing" because in reality going green threatens the oil giants and oil monopolies. Because it's not only reasonable to go green, but most likely will take over and bankrupt them entirely.
Quetzalcoatlus · 46-50, M
Who’s they?
Quetzalcoatlus · 46-50, M
@DeluxedEdition Can you share it?
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@Quetzalcoatlus The reason I say that is because if you really think about it democracy is the power to the people. we do not have that here. when you have billionaires running for presidency because they're the only ones who can afford campaigns and you have people like george soros manipulating things from the side lines.

George soros actually got in hot water because he kept withdrawing and putting money into smaller country economies causing them to collapse. He's done this to multiple countries including england. He even donated 128.5 million to the democratic party when obama was running for president.

It's people like him and the kabal whom financially manipulate america and make money off of these wars and are the ones who are really in charge.

if the voting system was actually democracy people like harriet tubman, mother teresa, would be winning not billionaires and people networking with billionaires to donate to their market campaign
Quetzalcoatlus · 46-50, M
@DeluxedEdition This isn’t evidence though. I get where you’re coming from but point me to some sources.
sylvsn59 · 61-69, M
I can see therapy isn't really helping.
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@sylvsn59 nice comment. says a lot about your character. esp considering I could be your great grand daughter. I hope no one treats your grandkids the way you choose to treat other young people whose politics you disagree with
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DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@OctoberEyes I don't agree with you but I respect your opinion
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DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@wildbill83 "but trump and putin are besties" 🙄

 
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