@basilfawlty89: Yeah...how about try reading actual books rather than just wikipedia. And how about not resorting to ad homenim...it betrays the weakness of your arguments, such as they are.

For example, your posted quotes here prove nothing. Marx was for internationalism in that he believe that simply being a worker would unite people from other countries. The Fascists (who were all originally devout socialists I might add) felt that this was the main flaw in Marxist philosophy. They hypothesized that people felt more kinship to their fellow countrymen than random workers across an ocean. Hence: the nationalism part of Fascism. And fascism did not "work" with business leaders (though there were exceptions) so much as it colluded with them and coerced small business (corporatism). Since the fascists rejected a free-market, but also rejected the soviet model as foreign, they felt that only a collusion with private business and the state for the benefit of the collective society was logical.
What exactly makes fascism economically centrist? How are you defining centrist here? Many fascists clung to their socialist ideology and felt that capitalism was a cancer upon society or a tool of the rich to oppress others. Are you suggesting that simply because they did not apply pure socialism to their controlled economies that they were somehow centrists?

And while it's true that the Marxists violently opposed the fascists, you are assuming their reasons for doing so. Marxism and Fascism were both mutations/bastardizations of socialism. Pure socialists referred to them both as heretics. This was not a battle of left vs right ideology, regardless of what Stalin told people after the fact. This was a battle of two different strains of socialist philosophy which shared common ideology, but had two different approaches to it's application.

You might want to read a bit more on the history and philosophical origins of both fascism, and socialism during the early 20th century.

I can reference you actual books. All you likely will reference me is a bunch of tripe from Milton Friedman and Ludwig von Mises and Rand. This would be the same Rand who praised the Genocide of Native Americans.

Fascists hated Socialism as much as Capitalism, they were Third Position - i.e class collaboration as opposed to the class warfare of Marxism. They believed that business leaders had a right to work with government to control the masses for the nation. Marxism seeks worker control of the workplace - those who do the work, receive the profits.

Notice how no scholar except Libertarian ones claim Fascism is left wing? There's a good reason for that.

@basilfawlty89: lol at calling Von Mises tripe. Have you ever read any Von Mises or Hayek? Yeah, those pesky people who promote such things as economics based upon voluntary exchange and freedom of choice..free from state force or coercion...why they're just mad. Only insane people would want to promote free-market competion and property rights so inovation and invention can thrive. What nonsense. State force and violence is much better. Systems where benevolent leaders extract wealth from the productive to bribe the unproductive with "free stuff" are so much more ethical. Systems where competion is removed and people are forced to purchase products from a centralized monopoly always ensure not only freedom, but the best product for the best price too....because nobody knows how to be frugal and provide the best service for your buck like government. Yep. The best of the best those bureaucrats are.

But back to fascism, here's a simple question for you: of what ideologies/political affiliations did all the major fascists come out of (and in many cases still have allegiance for)? For example Mussolini was a high prominent intellectual in what doctrine?

What the hell are you talking about? What is 420? And BTW I don't go on info wars but thanks for the assumption. I do my own research and make sure what I'm reading is actual reliable information and evidence. What about you? You get your news from the dailymail and the Telegraph? Don't make me laugh


The authorisation of FEMA camps was on the U.S.A military page for public view. If you knew it you would see it before they took it down. Maybe you should look up and question what you're told before making assumptions about people who share contradicting views to yours. It is extremely close minded

So he's German that makes him a Nazi? Do you realize how racist that is?

FEMA camps weren't legalised under the administration of Trump but Obama so I don't know why you are talking about him. Trump has only become the president recently.