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Trump to Re-open Alcatraz

More good ideas from Trump. Of course Democrats will hate it, since they do not think ANYONE
should be in prison. Hell, some Democrats lobbied to close all the prisons.
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Here's what DOGE ought to be asking:
(1) How much will it cost to refurbish and rebuild Alcatraz after being closed since 1963 due to high operational costs?
(2) Is it cheaper to maintain prisoners in our existing supermax style of prison, or is shipping food & supplies & guards out to Alcatraz cheaper?

I don't know the answers to these questions, but tRump's silence on them suggests the answers don't support re-opening Alcatraz.

Oh, wait, the Bureau of Prisons has this about the cost of Alcatraz:
On March 21, 1963, USP Alcatraz closed after 29 years of operation. It did not close because of the disappearance of Morris and the Anglins (the decision to close the prison was made long before the three disappeared), but because the institution was too expensive to continue operating. An estimated $3-5 million was needed just for restoration and maintenance work to keep the prison open. That figure did not include daily operating costs - Alcatraz was nearly three times more expensive to operate than any other Federal prison (in 1959 the daily per capita cost at Alcatraz was $10.10 compared with $3.00 at USP Atlanta). The major expense was caused by the physical isolation of the island - the exact reason islands have been used as prisons throughout history. This isolation meant that everything (food, supplies, water, fuel...) had to be brought to Alcatraz by boat. For example, the island had no source of fresh water, so nearly one million gallons of water had to be barged to the island each week. The Federal Government found that it was more cost-effective to build a new institution than to keep Alcatraz open.
https://www.bop.gov/about/history/alcatraz.jsp
DogMan · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues Ummm, this island is not in the middle of the ocean. You can swim to it. Although the currents are bad.

It will still be cheaper than building a new prison.
RageAgainstTheMachine · 41-45, M
@DogMan False.

There were a total of 14 escape attempts from the prison made by 34 prisoners during this time. Two men tried twice, making for a total of 36 individual escape attempts; fifteen were caught, eight gave up, seven were shot and killed, two were confirmed to have drowned and five are listed as "missing and presumed drowned.”
DogMan · 61-69, M
@RageAgainstTheMachine Whats false? that you can swim to it? People have swam much farther.
@DogMan says
It will still be cheaper than building a new prison.
According to the Bureau of Prisons website, as quoted above,
The Federal Government found that it was more cost-effective to build a new institution than to keep Alcatraz open.
That determination was made in 1963. What makes you think things might be different now?

BTW, some of the escape attempts were aided by crumbling salt-damaged concrete when the prison was only 30 years old. After 60 further years exposure to salty sea air, how much more of the concrete will need to be replaced?
@DogMan Is there some sort of swimming event I haven’t heard about? One where swimmers carry a million gallons of water from the shore to the island?
RageAgainstTheMachine · 41-45, M
@Mamapolo2016 I do not reply to individuals’ replies such as his; you are throwing eggs at a brick wall.
@RageAgainstTheMachine I think that’s very well put. But I wouldn’t throw eggs. They’re too expensive.
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DogMan · 61-69, M
@RageAgainstTheMachine Yes, you are right I have been called a brick wall before, but not the way you think.

As far as Mama, why would I listen to a little girl? She makes no sense.
@DogMan And a political dog man does?
DogMan · 61-69, M
@Mamapolo2016 Yes! You should listen. I have had a long productive life. I have spent 8 years in the military,
1 year in prison, and 40 years in commercial construction in Las Vegas.
The past 20 owning the construction company I built from the ground up.

A lot of hard knocks and life lessons. But hell, for all I know you are a 66 year old woman with similar experiences,
and a picture of your granddaughter as your avatar.
@DogMan I am older than you - 74 in another week. I’ve been to a lot of places, met a lot of people, read even more. Don’t get all high and mighty, sugar.

Age comes only through not dying, and the kindness of others. That’s a picture of me, roughly ten years ago.

Might want to schedule with your optometrist.

PS: You don’t make any sense, too.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@Mamapolo2016 You are welcome for the compliment I gave you. Yes, I am a very kind man. Mostly
kind to animals, but also many people. 😉 I would like to add that old age also comes from eating
healthy, and exercising daily. I hope you are doing that to keep your youthful appearance going.
@DogMan I didn’t consider it a compliment.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@Mamapolo2016 Why wouldn't you? Take it when it comes, it's good for mental health.
@DogMan Because “why would I listen to a little girl” is not a compliment. It’s diminishing. It’s dismissive. You seem to believe that what you say is weighty, meaningful, savvy, simply because you’ve lived a random period of time as a “man.” That may or may not be true. But have you learned anything? I see no evidence.

You have not learned that a man, or a woman, who has been paying attention in life, knows that the mark of a genuine human being is to uplift and guide. You just stomp on people with your opinions. First, it’s dumb, because nobody getting stomped on is listening to your pearls of wisdom. You will convince only those who already agree with you. So you’re not progressing, you’re seeking refuge in your bunker. That’s not courageous. It’s not wise. It’s not leading. It’s not “manly”.

You are deluded if you think I give a tinker’s damn about “youthful” appearance. I inherited useful genes in that respect, and it is in no way my accomplishment. Nor my pride.

A true compliment is not intended to control or give it with one hand and take it away with the other. True compliments I accept as gracefully as I can.

Now, I have zero interest in further discussion with you. Here’s hoping you feel the same.