Guys.. do you think mr.Trump is dangerous?
I think he'll push this world into world war 3 😱😱😱 well this is only my opinion as a non american
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SumKindaMunster · 56-60, M
Khaira · 36-40, F
@SumKindaMunster by taking venezuela and next, greenland
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@SumKindaMunster Removed the dictator, whose regime was seen as illegitimate by many countries, but not his government; then publicly disparaged the opposition.
The kidnapping was allegedly to stop the export of cocaine to the USA and elsewhere, but whilst that may be intended it's not likely to work. The drug gangs do not care who runs either country, and in the end the only way for the trade to stop is for people to have the sense not to use these noxious substances.
The USA does NOT need Greenland, Trump just wants it; for no rational reason other than expansionism. The reports about military invasion come from him or some of his people suggesting that as an option. To be fair an option not a decision, but given the US government's other actions elsewhere you cannot blame anyone genuinely fearing it could happen.
The kidnapping was allegedly to stop the export of cocaine to the USA and elsewhere, but whilst that may be intended it's not likely to work. The drug gangs do not care who runs either country, and in the end the only way for the trade to stop is for people to have the sense not to use these noxious substances.
The USA does NOT need Greenland, Trump just wants it; for no rational reason other than expansionism. The reports about military invasion come from him or some of his people suggesting that as an option. To be fair an option not a decision, but given the US government's other actions elsewhere you cannot blame anyone genuinely fearing it could happen.
SumKindaMunster · 56-60, M
@ArishMell
That's your opinion. How long has drug prevention education been going on? I remember D.A.R.E. in the 80's. We still have a drug problem. Maybe its time to admit that a free society is never going to not have a desire for intoxicating substances.
Removed the dictator, whose regime was seen as illegitimate by many countries, but not his government; then publicly disparaged the opposition.
The kidnapping was allegedly to stop the export of cocaine to the USA and elsewhere, but whilst that may be intended it's not likely to work. The drug gangs do not care who runs either country, and in the end the only way for the trade to stop is for people to have the sense not to use these noxious substances.
The kidnapping was allegedly to stop the export of cocaine to the USA and elsewhere, but whilst that may be intended it's not likely to work. The drug gangs do not care who runs either country, and in the end the only way for the trade to stop is for people to have the sense not to use these noxious substances.
That's your opinion. How long has drug prevention education been going on? I remember D.A.R.E. in the 80's. We still have a drug problem. Maybe its time to admit that a free society is never going to not have a desire for intoxicating substances.
The USA does NOT need Greenland, Trump just wants it; for no rational reason other than expansionism
Nonsense, he has stated his reasons. You just don't agree. It's essential to the "Golden Dome" missile defense system. He's stated an interest in its minerals. He believes its essential to protect from Russian and Chinese incursions over the north pole. To be fair an option not a decision, but given the US government's other actions elsewhere you cannot blame anyone genuinely fearing it could happen
Maybe the fucking media could stop promoting sensationalism, misdirection and lies regarding Trump and people wouldn't be as fearful. Any thoughts there? You believe the media is being fair and accurate in its reporting of the Trump administration?
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@SumKindaMunster I accept you support your President and your views are all from US media, but my remarks are more than just opinion.
Anti-drug education, laws and so on are common around the world but people still take them even though they cannot claim ignorance of the dangers.
Alcohol and tobacco, and nicotine substitutes, are legal in your and my countries so their users cannot say they are not allowed intoxicating substances. There is some social aspect to drinking but not to tobacco and certainly not the illicit drugs, some of which are undeniably very dangerous.
I know Mr. Trump has stated why he wants Greenland (defence and possible minerals); but neither of those need annexing the country. He states he wants the territory for America's defence. He has "not ruled out" force although I don't think it would be his preference. Not Greenland's defence then?
There is a desire among Greenlanders themselves eventually to be independent; but no more American than Russian or Chinese.
Greenland now - Iceland (sovereign country) next? Then the Faeroes (Danish) , Spitzbergen (Norwegian), ...?
There is no evidence Greenland or Denmark would refuse further defence installations if absolutely necessary, as they are fellow NATO nations and there is already a USAAF base on the island. Anyway the nearest tip of Russia is only seventy miles from Alaska and its oil-field; China and Russia are as likely to attack the USA from the West as the North-East; and modern weapons include more than missiles.
Nor any evidence that America would not be able to buy ores from Greenland - if any prove to exist there in useful quantities.
Thinking about it, I realised Trump's possible motive is the island being a US state only so US mining companies can exploit it for the USA; with no control by, or advantage to, its residents or anyone else.
Could US companies operate on the island as an autonomous Danish province?
Probably, but under that country's terms, just as when they operate in other nations.
They may first have to compete with European and other (Australian?) companies for the rights.
The terms would likely include Greenland and Danish planning, employment, enviromental and tax laws, some in accordance with EU and other international regulations and treaties, with any legal disputes probably settled in Copenhagen. Just as when operating in any another nation. Would they accept that?
Of course, there is nothing to stop Denmark and Greenland nationalising their assets in anticipation, if they have not already done that. Norway did that right from the start with her oil and natural-gas fields in the North Sea, to considerable advantage to the nation; and I wish the UK government had done the same with ours. It would mean foreign mining companies being contractors to the State, but that should not be difficult. I suspect though the present US administration would find appalling a foreign country keeping its own property out of US hands!
Anti-drug education, laws and so on are common around the world but people still take them even though they cannot claim ignorance of the dangers.
Alcohol and tobacco, and nicotine substitutes, are legal in your and my countries so their users cannot say they are not allowed intoxicating substances. There is some social aspect to drinking but not to tobacco and certainly not the illicit drugs, some of which are undeniably very dangerous.
I know Mr. Trump has stated why he wants Greenland (defence and possible minerals); but neither of those need annexing the country. He states he wants the territory for America's defence. He has "not ruled out" force although I don't think it would be his preference. Not Greenland's defence then?
There is a desire among Greenlanders themselves eventually to be independent; but no more American than Russian or Chinese.
Greenland now - Iceland (sovereign country) next? Then the Faeroes (Danish) , Spitzbergen (Norwegian), ...?
There is no evidence Greenland or Denmark would refuse further defence installations if absolutely necessary, as they are fellow NATO nations and there is already a USAAF base on the island. Anyway the nearest tip of Russia is only seventy miles from Alaska and its oil-field; China and Russia are as likely to attack the USA from the West as the North-East; and modern weapons include more than missiles.
Nor any evidence that America would not be able to buy ores from Greenland - if any prove to exist there in useful quantities.
Thinking about it, I realised Trump's possible motive is the island being a US state only so US mining companies can exploit it for the USA; with no control by, or advantage to, its residents or anyone else.
Could US companies operate on the island as an autonomous Danish province?
Probably, but under that country's terms, just as when they operate in other nations.
They may first have to compete with European and other (Australian?) companies for the rights.
The terms would likely include Greenland and Danish planning, employment, enviromental and tax laws, some in accordance with EU and other international regulations and treaties, with any legal disputes probably settled in Copenhagen. Just as when operating in any another nation. Would they accept that?
Of course, there is nothing to stop Denmark and Greenland nationalising their assets in anticipation, if they have not already done that. Norway did that right from the start with her oil and natural-gas fields in the North Sea, to considerable advantage to the nation; and I wish the UK government had done the same with ours. It would mean foreign mining companies being contractors to the State, but that should not be difficult. I suspect though the present US administration would find appalling a foreign country keeping its own property out of US hands!
SumKindaMunster · 56-60, M
@ArishMell One of the things I find so frustrating with Brits is their massive sense of superiority with regards to America.
Ya'll put forth a very detailed and selfish opinion and assume you know everything there is to know about an issue. For example, this is entirely your speculation:
There is no evidence Greenland or Denmark would refuse further defence installations if absolutely necessary, as they are fellow NATO nations and there is already a USAAF base on the island. Anyway the nearest tip of Russia is only seventy miles from Alaska and its oil-field; China and Russia are as likely to attack the USA from the West as the North-East; and modern weapons include more than missiles.
Nor any evidence that America would not be able to buy ores from Greenland - if any prove to exist there in useful quantities.
None of that is factual, it's just what you've chosen to believe. You certainly aren't privy to sensitive military information and are merely speculating with regard to Russia and China.
I'm on record as saying I don't believe military action is in the cards. You clearly don't understand Trump's negotiating style.
And you don't have to!
But you also aren't speaking from a place of knowledge. This is pure speculation and arrogance.
Ya'll put forth a very detailed and selfish opinion and assume you know everything there is to know about an issue. For example, this is entirely your speculation:
There is no evidence Greenland or Denmark would refuse further defence installations if absolutely necessary, as they are fellow NATO nations and there is already a USAAF base on the island. Anyway the nearest tip of Russia is only seventy miles from Alaska and its oil-field; China and Russia are as likely to attack the USA from the West as the North-East; and modern weapons include more than missiles.
Nor any evidence that America would not be able to buy ores from Greenland - if any prove to exist there in useful quantities.
None of that is factual, it's just what you've chosen to believe. You certainly aren't privy to sensitive military information and are merely speculating with regard to Russia and China.
I'm on record as saying I don't believe military action is in the cards. You clearly don't understand Trump's negotiating style.
And you don't have to!
But you also aren't speaking from a place of knowledge. This is pure speculation and arrogance.
AuRevoir · 36-40, M
@ArishMell It’s funny how you act as if any of those other countries had any Venezuelans best interests at heart… Even the democrats used to say that, that dictator needed to be removed… They put a $25 million dollar bounty on his head under the Biden administration.. and the left did nothing other than pretend they cared about the cruelty he was subjecting the people to…
However the moment he’s removed by someone on the right, and thus t he glory and honor goes to the right for actually doing something about the issue instead of saying one thing with their mouth, while their actions prove otherwise like the left have a habit of doing… Suddenly it’s “wrong” or “bad” you people are absolutely so delusional, you’ll allow any democrat to piss on you and tell you it’s rain..
The Venezuelan people are celebrating… the only ones who aren’t are the corrupt who were tied to his dictatorship drug regime… And instead of You people ever using your brain and getting a clue that the democrat party is nothing but a walking, talking, half braindead, emotional grifting, contradictory factory…
You just give them a pass on all their bullshit time and time again.. even if they were the ones originally calling for the dipshits removal…
How come all you people do is attempt to change the subject instead of addressing the obvious elephant in the room? Or run your moths like a parrot that only knows how to repeat talking points given to you from the media you so willingly brainwash yourself with? Instead of ever thinking for yourself and being like… “Hey.. wait a minute.. yeah that is fucked up that they originally complained and whined that Trump didn’t do enough against this guy his first term.. and now that he does something against the guy they’re still complaining and whining? This is two-faced bullshit right here.. maybe I should recognize this for what it is and start questioning things for what they are.. blatant contradictions..”
However the moment he’s removed by someone on the right, and thus t he glory and honor goes to the right for actually doing something about the issue instead of saying one thing with their mouth, while their actions prove otherwise like the left have a habit of doing… Suddenly it’s “wrong” or “bad” you people are absolutely so delusional, you’ll allow any democrat to piss on you and tell you it’s rain..
The Venezuelan people are celebrating… the only ones who aren’t are the corrupt who were tied to his dictatorship drug regime… And instead of You people ever using your brain and getting a clue that the democrat party is nothing but a walking, talking, half braindead, emotional grifting, contradictory factory…
You just give them a pass on all their bullshit time and time again.. even if they were the ones originally calling for the dipshits removal…
How come all you people do is attempt to change the subject instead of addressing the obvious elephant in the room? Or run your moths like a parrot that only knows how to repeat talking points given to you from the media you so willingly brainwash yourself with? Instead of ever thinking for yourself and being like… “Hey.. wait a minute.. yeah that is fucked up that they originally complained and whined that Trump didn’t do enough against this guy his first term.. and now that he does something against the guy they’re still complaining and whining? This is two-faced bullshit right here.. maybe I should recognize this for what it is and start questioning things for what they are.. blatant contradictions..”
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@AuRevoir I don't know who you imagine you are addressing when you use the plural there. Insults say more about you than me, too.
Actually those other countries cared about the Venezuelans but you can't just barge in and kidnap presidents and annexe nations against international law, even if the locals would welcome it.
There ARE ways and means to arrest leaders who break such laws, via the International Criminal Court, but as I am not a barrister I do not know what they are.
Actually those other countries cared about the Venezuelans but you can't just barge in and kidnap presidents and annexe nations against international law, even if the locals would welcome it.
There ARE ways and means to arrest leaders who break such laws, via the International Criminal Court, but as I am not a barrister I do not know what they are.
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