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Why did a democratic enlightened country like France get captured by the Nazis?

val70 · 51-55
In general one can conclude that the French lost in 1940 mainly because of three reasons: intelligence failure, operational and tactical inferiority, and poor strategic leadership
val70 · 51-55
@beckyromero You're missing the point there. It wasn't about too few tanks or not good enough but the employment. Even the concept of so-called tank destroyers wasn't ready baked in the French army then yet. In short, one expected infantry to hold off the Germans instead of tanks. The French and Belgian army had a much greater arsenal of artillery than the Germans just because they thought of holding back the tanks with guns. The bridges or rather crossings along the Meuse weren't defended by small mobile companies of tanks but by static ant-tank guns. Less mobile and less concentrated than a counter-strike by a company of tanks and tankdestroyers would have been. The air cover wasn't even provided because that also had been stragetically mismanaged
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@val70

Not missing your point. You're revising French strategy. Certainly not a bad idea, considering how badly the war went.

The British and French also played into Germans hands by pushing into Belgium with their most mobile units. With the BEF and the French 1st, 7th and 9th Armies committed, the French largely lost their ability to maneuver to meet the thrust from the Ardennes.

After the war Von Rundstedt expressed his surprise that the French hadn't counter-attacked from around Verdun. He was also surprised that once his panzers reached the Channel that the French didn't put forth a strong counter attack against his tanks before German infantry could catch up.
val70 · 51-55
@beckyromero Just proving my point that sending 7th Army to the North was the real beginning of the disaster
Jaego · 100+
Enlightenment is not a factor in war. Killing efficiency is.
maskedbandit · 61-69, M
No one was ready for the Germans blitz screen. Russia was able to regroup because of winter weather and Britain, UK had a little time to prepare. When Hitler turned on Russia, that helped Britain, Uk greatly.
Elessar · 26-30, M
Essentially because France didn't have the military capacity is has now, back then
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@Elessar France had a very large and powerful army. They just didn't use that power properly.
Because the Nazis just captured anything they could and didn't avoid areas with people who had different ideologies... If they had stuck with only populations that wanted to join them, there probably wouldn't even have been a war.
True psychopaths in power @NerdyPotato
beckyromero · 36-40, F
They spent the bulk of their defense expenditures on the Maginot Line, a series of what turned out to be pretty effective fortifications.

But there were a few weak spots where they thought they could save money, the Ardennes Forest and the areas at the Belgium border (hoping that Belgium wouldn't declare neutrality by signally that France would come to the aid of Belgium if attacked by Germany; Belgium would later declare neutrality and be invaded anyway.)

And towards the channel, the soil just wasn'tgood for deep fortifications.

But allowing Germany to violate the Versailles Treaty was the main factor.
Anniedlr · 26-30, F
Poor Military Preparation and Tactics
Shadyglow · F
@Anniedlr that's HOW not why.
Anniedlr · 26-30, F
@Shadyglow It is both How and Why
Shadyglow · F
@Anniedlr OK...anyone else????
Cierzo · M
Because they were democratic and 'enlightened'
Shadyglow · F
@Cierzo never thought that kind of security could fail???
The Nazis had the better military.
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