In my view, Truman was way too eager to Bomb Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
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ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
I disagree -- we were at war, the estimated death toll from an invasion of the Japanese home islands was in the millions, and one of the alternatives I've heard about was a report that chemical weapons (gas I believe) were ready to be shipped to the Pacific for use pre-invasion. And as deadly as the atomic bombs were, the fire-bombings of Japanese cities killed and maimed far more Japanese than the atomic bombs did.
PDXNative1986 · 36-40, MVIP
@ChipmunkErnie Argument is spurious as it ignores my primary objection. I do not argue for an invasion of the Japanese Home islands. I simply think Truman should have waited. Hirohito's own private correspondence with his Navy tends to indicate the Soviet invasion alone would have lead Hirohito to issue the surrender order. the Consequences of dropping the bomb merit a Delay in using them to see how things played out Sans using it. Nuclear proliferation is worth avoiding. Perhaps more americans would have died while we waited to see what happened but modern history alone proves we should have sacrificed those lives. it would be worth it to keep the trinity test secret.
a 3 week delay is not "we should invade the home islands"
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman
All the nukes really provided was a way for Hirohito to spare himself humiliation in surrender.
My point is Truman was too eager to Drop the bombs. Not that he should never have done it no matter what.
Also given Japans desire to maintain the institution of Emperor the Soviet Invasion would create desperation to surrender to the americans before the soviets Violently overthrew the emperor. They would no doubt due to Emperor as they had the Tsar.
a 3 week delay is not "we should invade the home islands"
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman
All the nukes really provided was a way for Hirohito to spare himself humiliation in surrender.
My point is Truman was too eager to Drop the bombs. Not that he should never have done it no matter what.
Also given Japans desire to maintain the institution of Emperor the Soviet Invasion would create desperation to surrender to the americans before the soviets Violently overthrew the emperor. They would no doubt due to Emperor as they had the Tsar.