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October 30th in History

October 30th

1629 King Charles I gives Bahamas to Sir Robert Heath.






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On 30th October 1799, The Llandovery Bank was established in Llandovery in the premises known as the King’s Head on Stone Street, where it was locally known as the ‘Black Ox Bank’ (‘Banc yr Eidon’) because the banknotes were embellished with an engraving on the left hand side of a Welsh black ox.

Historically, the Welsh hill farmers derived their main income from the breeding of black cattle, before taking them into Eastern England to be fattened up before sale in London markets. The long journey home meant that the travellers were vulnerable to attacks from highwaymen and armed gangs, so there became a need to establish a way of transferring the proceeds from the sale to a bank near the home farm.

David Jones, a successful local drover who had also married into a rich family, established the Black Ox Bank in Llandovery, as it was a traditional meeting point of the Carmarthenshire drovers, because of its rich meadow land, ideal for resting the cattle.

David Jones's grandsons continued the Llandovery Bank, and also opened branches at Lampeter and Llandeilo, under the title ‘David Jones & Co. This company was sold to Lloyds Bank Ltd in 1909, thus ending the last surviving private bank in West Wales.


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1873 P. T. Barnum's circus, "Greatest Show on Earth," debuts in New York City.





1896 Amy Beach's "Gaelic Symphony," the first major work by an American female composer, debuts by the Boston Symphony Orchestra and receives "public and journalistic acclaim"




1938 A radio broadcast of H. G. Wells' "The War of the Worlds," narrated by Orson Welles, allegedly causes mass panic.



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On October 30th 1963 Newport RFC beat New Zealand 3–0. It was the touring teams only defeat on the tour which included international matches against England, Scotland,Ireland, Wales and France.
Newport, captained by Brian Price dominated the forward battle and David Watkins at outside half kept New Zealand pinned back with his tactical kicking and darting runs. The only score of the game was a drop goal by John 'Dick' Uzzell.
Who should have been in lectures at University.
I’ve been a Newport supporter since 1969….tonight we play Carmarthen Quins.

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1984 The 3 surviving members of the 'Beatles' Pop group were given the freedom of the City of Liverpool. Harrison refused to attend.


1990 English and French tunnellers met for the first time underneath the English Channel during the construction of the Channel Tunnel.





30 Oct 1961
Two days after Beatles fan Raymond Jones asked for The Beatles' German single ‘My Bonnie’ (recorded with Tony Sheridan) at Brian Epstein's NEMS record store in Liverpool, two girls asked for the same record. Epstein's difficulty in locating the record was due to him not knowing that the record was released, not by The Beatles, but by Tony Sheridan and 'The Beat Brothers' ('Beatles' resembles a vulgar slang word in German, so The Beatles' name was changed for this single).



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ninalanyon · 70-79, T
Harrison refused to attend.
That sounds odd, what's the story?
@ninalanyon no idea.
ninalanyon · 70-79, T
@TheSirfurryanimalWales It's proving hard to find out. But I found this:
Paul was the only living member of the band to collect the honour in person,
https://theguideliverpool.com/did-you-know-these-people-have-received-the-freedom-of-the-city-of-liverpool/

So Ringo didn't attend either. I couldn't find anything that said why only Paul attended.

I tried Duck.Ai and eventually got this:
No. A report from the day Liverpool’s council voted to confer the honor said Ringo planned to attend the ceremony. It also said the ceremony would happen later, when the Beatles could gather—so my earlier claim that George had refused to attend was too definite; the same report said his agent expected him to accept in person.

So I asked for Duck.Ai's reasoning and got this:

<!-- **Clarifying Ringo's Attendance**

I need to correct a mistake regarding whether Ringo refused to attend an event. The evidence from UPI indicates he was definitely planning to be there as of March 7. There might have been confusion concerning the initial vote and the later ceremony, possibly in 1990. It seems Ringo did attend while George likely refused, although some sources suggest he could have accepted in person. I need to transparently clarify this conflicting information and ensure an accurate answer is provided.**Correcting Attendance Report**

I need to clarify that reports at the time indicated Ringo and Paul intended to attend, while the council vote in March wasn't the actual ceremony, which took place later. Also, it seems George wasn’t refusing then; his agent mentioned he would accept in person. I realize my previous reply overstated the situation. The source I referenced, UPI, is a contemporary account that lists the date, so I need to incorporate this for accuracy. -->
No. A report from the day Liverpool’s council voted to confer the honor said Ringo planned to attend the ceremony. It also said the ceremony would happen later, when the Beatles could gather—so my earlier claim that George had refused to attend was too definite; the same report said his agent expected him to accept in person. [1]

Isn't it strange how things become accepted when there appears to be no evidence for them?
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@ninalanyon It seems simply confusion over who did what when.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Theose were enormous cattle droves - over very long distances, too. Well over 200 miles for some, I wouldl think. I wonder how long they took, and how they looked after the animals en route?
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@ninalanyon Indeed!. In some areas at least there were "drove roads", or "droves" for the purpose; basically farm tracks separate from the ordinary roads.
ninalanyon · 70-79, T
@ArishMell There is one actually named Drove Road where I come from. Of course these days it's very much inside the new town but it terminates near the market and slaughterhouses in the Old Town. Or rather where those institutions used to be.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@ninalanyon There are still some Droves in places, such as on the Mendip Hills. Though now used as modern farm tracks and public footpaths, they retain the word in their names.

 
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